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  1. Watch Case Issues, Opening, Movement/Stem Removal, Case Parts, straps and bracelets

    Discussing issues regarding the watch case including Opening, Closing, Movement Removal, Stem Removal, Pushers, Pendant Tubes etc...
    You can also discuss subjects relating to watch straps and bracelets here.

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  2. New to watch repair ** Safe Zone For Learner Watch Repairers **

    Discussing subjects relating to learner watch repairers.
    More experienced repairers - please guide learners with patience and respect 🙏

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  3. Regulation, Watch Performance and Timing Machine (Timegrapher) Readings/Results

    Discuss general regulation techniques, watch performance issues and your timing machine readings (traces).
    Balance Wheel Adjustment, Hairspring Adjustment, Regulating Watches, Setting Watches in Beat, Lift Angle

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  4. Service, Repair & Adjustment Techniques (Not Timing or Regulation)

    Discussing subjects relating to servicing, making adjustments and repairs to watch parts and movements and fitting balance staffs. This section is not for timing or regulation discussion. To discuss Regulation or Timing please go here.

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  5. Cleaning / De-Greasing Techniques - including cleaning products

    Discussing cleaning and de-greasing of watch movements including products used

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  6. Fault Finding / Fault Diagnosis

    Discuss fault finding. Post here for advise diagnosing any watch movement issues.

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  7. Restoration Techniques - Polishing, Refinishing, Bluing, Rust, etc..

    Dealing with all subjects relating to watch restoration techniques such as Rust Removal, Bluing, Refinishing etc...

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  8. Lubrication Techniques, Oils, Greases, Epilame Treatments

    Discussing lubrication techniques, oils and greases to use and Epilame treatment.

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  9. Quartz and Tuning Fork Battery Operated Watches

    Discussing quartz and tuning fork watch movements

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  10. Shock Settings - Incablock, Diashock - Fitting/Adjusting Jewels, etc..

    Discussing shock settings such as Incabloc and Diashock etc..
    Fitting and the adjustment of Jeweled Bearings, Pallet Stones, Impulse Jewels

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  11. Identify This Movement or Watch

    Need help identifying a watch movement? Please use this section.

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  12. Watch Parts, Sourcing Parts, Movements, Materials and Lubrication Products

    Discussing watch parts, the sourcing of watch parts and movements, and products required to repair and service watch movements

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  13. Documentation, Books & Service Sheets

    Discussing watch repair documentation, books, parts lists and service sheets

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    • Just got these good quality diamond files from the bay for Just a fiver, we all love a bargain dont we. Brand names are J.K.Smit  and Triefus, two old diamond tool makers so not cheap crap.
    • Its a touch under ive just remeasured it and added a wrist shot. Unbelievably it was £13  plus 3 postage. You dont find watches that nice for that money every day of the week. Maybe removing the epilame in the oil region improves the purpose of it. We may know very soon as i emailed Episurf 4 hours ago to ask that exact question. 🤞they are happy to provide an answer for us. How do you fancy trying a stearic acid vapour treatment experiment  H .  Shall i have a go this afternoon ?
    • That's the size of my grandfather's Ernest Borel watch. Definitely not a lady's watch! 👍
    • Thanks H It does have a big crown for the watch , it could be considered a ladies watch these days i guess, it measures 33mm case 36mm with that large crown 18mm lug space. A tad small for a guy of today, but still very wearable. The photo was deceptive so here it is adorning my 7 1/4 " wrist. It need some love to make it run better. The hair coils are touching so running a bit fast at the moment,  not caused by magnetism, and maybe just a clean and a service. The dtal is in fantastic shape.
    • That's one beautiful timepiece! Love the big crown in proportion to the case. Perhaps a ladies' watch, but I don't think so. I have a "modern Ingersoll" watch, but it has nothing to do with the original brand (Miyota 9015 movement). Interesting synonym for synthetic oils! 😆 There is, of course, a limit to how large a volume of oil epilame can bind and hold in place. If the oleophobic effect is too strong then it can become a problem. I'm not sure where I heard or read it, but as I understand it, the active ingredient in a bottle of epilame is extremely small and more than 99% of the contents of the bottle is just a transfer agent. If the active ingredient becomes too concentrated, which it can become over time, or if the product is of poor quality, the oleophobic effect is amplified. This in turn causes the applied oil to look like a gummed-up ball on the surface of the treated part. If that happens, we know that the active ingredient has become too concentrated. What we want is for the oil to bind but not to the point where it is formed into an excessively round ball on the surface. The highlighted text in the patent that you refer to describes well the problem that can arise with too high a concentration of the active ingredient. However, I would be extremely surprised if the entire amount of oil leaves the treated surface as water on wax would. At present, I am convinced that the analogy between wax and water on the one hand and epilame and oil on the other is incorrect. Epilame is described as binding and that is also my absolute experience. Epilame probably has some repelling effect but that is not its main purpose and that is not how epilame is designed and works. The method of abrading the epilame treatment from the section of the pallet stones coming in contact with the escape wheel teeth seems after even more research to be well established, but if it actually works, if so how and why is beyond what I can currently understand. Perhaps it is just to do and trust that it is based on well-established experience. I am, after all, inclined to think so.
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