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I will try and get some pictures of the pallet fork in the watch. I assume you want the balance removed though? I also assume you want to see the lock on the stones? I did nothing other than take the balance in and out. With no power on the watch, if I manually rotate the balance like you say, it will rotate back and forth, the pallet fork is doing it's thing and the pallet wheel is turning... it does down in about 5 - 7 seconds I would say.

I did something better yet, I updated my report and included a link to this thread!

Tradera doesn't swich pics to show the movement, I guess its a ST96. Made in India.

Haha, i used to do that when i spotted fake rolexes partly hidden in the corners of joblot watches. I guess the seller would hope some poor soul would think he had discovered a hidden gem and bid up. I suggested i was part of rolex's elite fraud squad and would be visiting the address listed by the end of the day, the listing promptly disappeared

Hairspring coil is not concentric " pushed to side" , hairspring needs a bit of manipulation near the stud to center the coil. Turn the stud with a reglare screw driver to center the coil, thats all it needs.

As nice as your picture isn't it does show something that's a problem it would be nice to have a picture of the balance wheel in the watch looking straight down so we can see if they hairspring looks like it's centered. Because right now it does not look like it's centered but that could be because the balance wheel is leaning as it's out of the watch. In a case here is an image from your image and notice a problem it looks like they hairspring is touching the stud? So when you put it back in the watch look carefully is the hairspring actually touching or not and when the watches running even if it's not touching when it stopped it may be close enough that when the hairspring opens up it will touch the stud. Then this is where it's nice to have pictures of your watch so we can give you helpful suggestions fortunately I found another picture online. I notice your stud has a screw on top I assume when you loosen the screw the stud will rotate? With no power on the watch providing they hairspring actually is touching the backside of the stud you can loosen the stud and see if you bump they hairspring back into being centered in other words you have to move the hairspring away from the backside of the stud like in the picture where you notice the outer terminal curve is much greater than what you have as a guess caused by your stud not being quite in the right place I suspect when you loosen the screw up with no power of probably just align itself where it's supposed to be. Then yes the words to describe this totally sucks versus if you could just see somebody do it. That's why I'm giving an image that's more of what you should see versus what we see with yours as soon as you get us a picture in the watch of the balance wheel then the definition a centered is if you look at your image you look at the coil spacing near the stud and look at the coil spacing on the other side of notice on the other side they are much closer together. I think once all the spacing is even you should be away from the stud the watch should be fine.

Go on give it your best shot tell them its crap.

? As long as the slightly tilted hairspring isn't touching anything at least for running it's not an issue it's when they hairspring is touching the balance wheel a rubbing on the balance bridge Or bumping in anything it's not supposed to than that is definitely an issue Okay let's narrow it down basic troubleshooting. So the previous problem was you relocated the pallet stones in incorrect location and the amplitude didn't run well so now you've moved the pallet stones and everything is total crap maybe we should get some pictures the pallet fork in the watch. Then as far as taking the balance wheel in and out did you do anything other than that? Also with no power on the watch if you manually rotate the balance wheel about 300° and let go of it doesn't oscillate nicely back and forth or does it stop really really fast?

I believe we are. I used the adjuster with the hairspring stud to make the beat error as low as possible. The major gain or loss in s/d I adjusted with the adjuster with the curb pin. And in the very end the micro adjustments with the screw. Sorry, I did a bad job with the initial description.

Whenever you're telling somebody that you think their watches a fake you should list out the reasons why. Like the movement in this watch is total crap Although I probably change the wording of it's not of the same quality normally found in one of these watches. Or the 17 rubies On the dial looks like it's missing a letter. So you just tell somebody the reasons you think it's fake. Then this gets much harder for things like a Rolex watch because sometimes just swapping a dial could make a huge difference etiquette still be a real Rolex watch and still be a counterfeit. This is considerably different it just doesn't look for a nice. Then typically if anyone asks whether their watches fake typically it is fake this happens where I work people find watches get watches are paid with watches and want to know if they're legit and so far they've always been not legitimate watch us I'm sure someday someone will come in with a is this real and maybe it's going to be real but it hasn't happened yet

Just so were all on the same page here are watch really has two ways a regulating sort of. There is the micro adjustment with the screw. You put that in the center position then the arm that actually does the regulating can be manually moved. Then when you really close at then you can play with the micro adjustment otherwise as you found it has very limited range if the other arm is not where it's supposed to be. Then which I believe I set up above floating stud can be moved independent in all three are layered together so to a certain degree all three will move each other.

As soon as I saw it I reported it to the site owner as "Suspected fraud", but then I got seconds thoughts about how embarrassing it would be to be wrong (I guess there's always a small chance), so that's when I thought I should check with you guys. Thanks!

Sorry everyone, I should have initially put in more effort in the description of the problem etc. \ So, Water damage. I could only assume that there was water inside the watch. Looks like the crown seal was the cause. Keyless works took the biggest hit (stem, winding pinion and so on). Lume on the dial, has suffered a bit also, but that cleaned-up nicely. And overall the movement was in need of servicing. Measurement. Was done outside the case, just the bear movement. Video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/512weuo7xgs7fgb/IMG_3551.MOV?dl=0 Picture: Update: I tried playing a bit more with the adjustments. Rate: +3s/d, Amp: 180, BE: 0.3 ... Honestly at this point I'm a bit lost. The watch runs fine bit the beat is supper low....

That is truly awful, especially the plastic bit that looks like a modified cable retainer from a mains plug.

Thats awful Watchie, everything about it is screaming Mumbai to me, besides the dial the hands look very standard from india. Even if the seller isn't listed as being from India then someone has bought it from india and wants to offload it. Haha i stopped at the first picture then decided to go back for another laugh, there is plastic inside the movement.