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There are differences beyond the display size of why someone would pay roughly $3000 versus 225 for a 1900. But for most hobbyists you're never going to notice the difference. I have actually done sid

The 1900 give you the option to manually select the beat. This can be very useful. The 1000 is very limited in this respect. Having said that, the 1000 is excellent for majority of watches you would w

When you finally purchase you watch timing machine you might find the following vid interesting. How to determine what the watch you are working on lift angle is using a timing machine.  

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not sure if I'm interpreting your question correctly? So I've attached a couple of pictures showing the sensor found in the microphone. You have to disassemble the assembly to get to the sensor. Then if you want any more pictures of the inside of the 1000 let me i photographed everything when I had a part.

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So the sound is not picked up through the metal stop by contact with the watch.  My timegrapher's stop tends to scratch the watch so if I puts some tape or heat shrink on the metal stop it would not reduce the ability to measure the sounnd?

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

 

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timing machine pickups are interesting they pick up the vibration of the watch. While the sound is a vibration they have to make physical contact with whatever they're picking up. So you cannot insulate the metal part because it has to make physical contact with the watch. the vibration picked up at the top  is transmitted down to the sensor. So any form of insulation preventing the vibration getting to the metal part means the pickup doesn't get anything either. So if it's scratching because there's a sharp edge you can smooth that off.

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Ok I will file the sharp edges to smooth the stop/sound pick up post.

I've heard if many people putting tape or heat shrink tubing over the stop to prevent the scratching but this would affect the ability of the timegrapher hear the watch.

 

Thanks again.

 

Tom

 

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Putting tape on that metal piece which is sharp makes little to no difference to the pickup of the microphone. I do just that and get a good signal with no problems. I've tested it both ways on my 1900 and a bit of tape works a treat.

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Hi everyone, I have a Timegrapher 1900 and I could not live without it !. I think that it is an excellent bit of kit for the money. Years ago I had a Vibrograph and other things left to me and I disposed of the lot for almost nothing. I should have kept the spring winder tho. 

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I'm looking on ebay at a Weishi Multifunction Timegrapher model 1000 for about $150.  I don't know anything about timing machines, how they work, how to use them or how to regulate a watch but I now have several watches from pocket watches to wrist watches that need to be timed.  Is this a usable machine and do you need to be a rocket scientist to use one?  As always, thanks in advance, Dan.

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Hi Dan. I have a Weishi and it works great. You certainly don't need to be a rocket scientist to use it but there is quite a bit you should learn about. Beat errors, lift angles positional adjusting.There is a great video here on how to regulate watches.

But if you really want to get into it, there is a great book called Practical Watch Adjusting by Donald De Carle. You can buy it on Amazon. Good luck.

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On 9/14/2014 at 12:54 AM, haratua said:

The newer Timegrapher 1000 works on Co-axials as well as option to manually select the beat rate. My understanding is that the limitations of the older 1000 (as per Mark's comments) were not hardware limitations but rather software's. If you get a new Timegrapher 1000 today you should be able to use it on Co-axial as well as manually select the beat rate. For common beat rate, you could just set it to Auto (e.g. 12000, 14400, 18000, 19800, 21600, 25200, 28800, 36000, 43200). For not so common beat rate, you can select manual beat rate.
 
The following is a video of my Omega Co-Axial 3313 on newer Timegrapher 1000 (DD position, Lift Angle 38 degree, Beat rate set to Auto).

 

 

Very much agree with the above as I have the new Witchi 1000 which does indeed work with my co-axial Omega cal 8800.

 

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I have had the 1900 for many years. If I remember correctly I choose this model because it is capable of measuring a co-axle movement.

Also the with 1900 you can adjust the signal level which I use when testing a pin lever movement. I don't think the 1000 has this facility. 

 

 

 

 

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Having just gotten a 1900 i'm curious about this.
I note it has dual colour tracking dots rather than white on a black screen but I'm unsure beyond this what it has that the other model doesn't.
I have read in a few places that both units, (provided they're not really old models) can measure co-axial escapements but I cannot confirm this.

I'd be happy to list all the menu options on mine to do a side by side comparison against a weishi 1000 unit if a user would be happy to do the same?

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Afaik the difference is dual colour display and you can alter the gain on the mic. I know plenty of people who do just fine with the 1000, I went for the 1900 as the difference in price was less than a parts watch, but I did find a good deal about 2 years ago for someone selling new ones via eBay.


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Hi guy’s! I’m thinking of buying my first timegrapher machine! What’s the best machine to buy as a beginner without breaking the bank please!Cheers guy’s!

 

 

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Weishi 1000 or 1900, both do the same thing. The over thing I like about the 1900 is the dual colour track. When setting a movement in beat it's really easy to see if you've hopped over from one side to the other. 

e.g. be of 0.5, adjust, be of 0.2, you're aiming for that perfect spot but I'd this 0.2 on the same side or did you skip over?

Until you nudge that little bit more you can't tell unless you see the colours swapped.

But that aside I'm sure there's very little between them in capability.

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On 5/29/2019 at 11:00 PM, bosstaki said:

Hi guy’s! I’m thinking of buying my first timegrapher machine! What’s the best machine to buy as a beginner without breaking the bank please!Cheers guy’s!

Have you checked out pinned topic in the dedicated tools section?

Actually I'd suggest our friendly mods to merge your question in there.

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