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An S T Dupont - Paris - "Dupont" 17 Jewel small dress watch is on its way. Possibly gold plated, but.. who knows.

This is another 404 club candidate. Described as a non runner,  I have no idea what ails it, nor what makes it run, but the sub 404 club price means that finding this out wont be too fiscally painful.

The listing also states "..Japanese made with stainless steel back, shock proof and Full Lever movement foreign...", but this is after all an ebay listing, so some, all, or indeed none of this may be true. If true, then possibly a Seiko or Citizen movement. Time will tell.

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EDIT: I found a couple of steel/white metal cased versions, and this might be what is inside. Can anybody identify the movement from my terrible picture? It does look pretty familiar. Maybe a Bostok 2605

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EDIT2: http://www.ranfft.de/ appears to be down at the moment, so my ability to check and compare is limited.

 

 

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22 hours ago, AndyHull said:

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An S T Dupont - Paris - "Dupont" 17 Jewel small dress watch is on its way. Possibly gold plated, but.. who knows.

This is another 404 club candidate. Described as a non runner,  I have no idea what ails it, nor what makes it run, but the sub 404 club price means that finding this out wont be too fiscally painful.

The listing also states "..Japanese made with stainless steel back, shock proof and Full Lever movement foreign...", but this is after all an ebay listing, so some, all, or indeed none of this may be true. If true, then possibly a Seiko or Citizen movement. Time will tell.

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EDIT: I found a couple of steel/white metal cased versions, and this might be what is inside. Can anybody identify the movement from my terrible picture? It does look pretty familiar. Maybe a Bostok 2605

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EDIT2: http://www.ranfft.de/ appears to be down at the moment, so my ability to check and compare is limited.

 

 

I’m no expert Andy but the B like symbol does look like the Bostock/Vostock logo.

 

Tom

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I found a slightly better image from a different Dupont watch, which looks more like what you've got there to my eye:

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Not sure if that's helpful--I can't read much on it beyond the serial number.

Edit: ah hah! I thought that said 1601. From here, listed as a "Tchaïka 1601".

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And I feel like I've seen that hallmark before...yes! Here at Watchuseek forums, listed as a Soviet era Vostock

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And here is some more info on a Chaika 1601A movement, which looks right to me.

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15 hours ago, ManSkirtBrew said:

And here is some more info on a Chaika 1601A movement, which looks right to me.

Thanks. I thought it looked very familiar. The one I purchased hasn't arrived yet, but I'm pretty sure you have nailed the identification of the movement. Better still, I have some parts movements, so if there are any problems with it, I should have the parts.

Its interesting that a high end French jewellery chain should go for a USSR produced movement and not, for example a Lip or similar.  I guess they used them for the same reason that Sekonda in the UK did. They were relatively inexpensive but also relatively well made.

Speaking of Lip, the Chaika 1601/1601a and the Zim 2602 and the Bostok all appear to be derived from the Lip R-26

There is a discussion about this here -> https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/lip-r26-vs-pobeda.12673/

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 Bought this today, liked the dial, have about ten Seiko LM now and be collecting more. 

https://esam.ir/item/27209610/سیکو-ال-ام?idPurPayItem=4262277

Swiss watch this good of guality is expensive.

If you guys don't have one, you should look into Lord matic, probably end up buying yourself one.

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I just got my first Lordmatic earlier this month. It was a non-runner from Japan. The movement lock ring was jammed so tight that I had a hard time getting it out. The previous watchmaker must have given up because the all the screws looked pristine. 

The second wheel jewel was broken and by some miracle, I found an exact jewel in my collection of scrap jewels.

It's running again, although the positional variation in the amplitude and rate is not perfect.

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Now I'm looking at getting a Lord Marvel or King Seiko.

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I seem to be on a chronograph binge. I just picked up two on eBay.  A Baume & Mercier formula S image.png.875c205eb089289f5baec4238960cc64.png

 

And a (lord help me) another Tissot based on the ETA C01.211 (LOL)

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I can't wait to hide them from the wife get working on them.

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10 hours ago, eccentric59 said:

And a (lord help me) another Tissot based on the ETA C01.211 (LOL)

I especially like the look of this one, perhaps you could change out the bracelet for a grey metal one to match the dial (titanium/gun-metal etc)? I have a love-hate relationship with chronographs, I think they look great, but on my wrist they are too complicated for a quick glance to check the time, so for me they are impractical unless just for aesthetic value. I have tried to get used to them as, like I said, I really like the look of them, but just cant get over the mental hurdle and I'm a little jealous of those who can wear them as a daily driver.... we all have our crosses to bare...😄

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Just arrived, a Longines 30L.

I've been looking for one of these for a long time. I've been a fan of Longines since I got my first, I love the quality and elegance. 

In the thread "looking for a simple, ultra-precise hand-wound movement - suggestions?", @nickelsilver suggested the larger Longines (30mm movements).  The higher grade version of this movement  (30Z) were used as observatory chronometers. So I decided I needed one. I'm expecting good performance. It's not going to just sit in one of my cases, I'm going to regularly use it.

I bought it as "spares or repair", so was expecting a damaged balance. But on first look, the balance and hairspring seem perfect. It just seems to have a broken mainspring. Result 😀

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BTW @nickelsilver, you also recommended Peseux as good movements. I bought a cheap Rotary with a Peseux 7050. Looked like it had been serviced by a gorrilla - the pallet fork was bent about 30°, missing pallet jewel, hairspring all out of shape. So I wasn't expecting great performance. On the timegrapher yesterday, looking good ! 

(I'll be buying more Peseux - good quality at a good price 👍 )

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With some luck, this Tula-silver PW should arrive next week. Seller says it runs in all positions. Havila movement "B".

Curious & an exciting project ....... ☺️

Sellers pictures;

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Havila movement "B";

https://watch-movements.eu/blog/en/2020/03/05/havila-a-nearly-unknown-movement-manufacturer/

 

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9 hours ago, Endeavor said:

With some luck, this Tula-silver PW should arrive next week. Seller says it runs in all positions. Havila movement "B".

A beautiful timepiece as always. I envy your ability to find these "gems". I'm not into pocket watches, but nevertheless. Oh BTW, really clever to ask the seller if it runs in all positions. If it doesn't run in a certain position it likely has a broken staff, and broken staff on these old watches is of course very common.

Congrats!

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That's one gorgeous timepiece! 😀 There is so much to like about it. Among other things, just to mention something, the crown looks spectacular. Congrats!

 

On 1/31/2024 at 9:54 AM, mikepilk said:

BTW @nickelsilver, you also recommended Peseux as good movements. I bought a cheap Rotary with a Peseux 7050.

As a result of the same thread, I got myself a Peseux 7040 which I have just serviced. Tentatively it looks very good on my TM. Very straight and stable lines, although not with the same nice amplitude as you got, but still good.

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8 hours ago, VWatchie said:

Oh BTW, really clever to ask the seller if it runs in all positions.

Yes, I've been screwed once.

A PW was sold by a "seasoned" seller as a runner, even with a short video of a moving balance. But with a broken balance-staff pivot the watch ran only in one position, just like in his video ....... another hard lesson learned 😑

Luckily, it had a CYMA movement and I could find, with the help of members here, a new balance staff ....... 😉

Ever since, this question is included.

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On 12/21/2023 at 6:35 PM, ManSkirtBrew said:

I found a slightly better image from a different Dupont watch, which looks more like what you've got there to my eye:

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Not sure if that's helpful--I can't read much on it beyond the serial number.

Edit: ah hah! I thought that said 1601. From here, listed as a "Tchaïka 1601".

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And I feel like I've seen that hallmark before...yes! Here at Watchuseek forums, listed as a Soviet era Vostock

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And here is some more info on a Chaika 1601A movement, which looks right to me.

I finally got a chance to take a quick look at this watch.
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What wasn't apparent from the listing is that it has a very nice deep blue dial, which of course the camera entirely fails to do justice to.

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It is indeed a Chaika 1601A furthermore it actually runs. It keeps time, but the amplitude is low. 
It is in dire need of a service, and possibly a mainspring.

I'm pretty sure I have a few other Chaika 1601A scrap movements in my box of USSR spares, so I should have everything I need to get it running well.
I'm not sure if the case is gold plated or not. Quite a few of the USSR watches I have, are.  I suspect if it is GP, it has barely a sniff of gold on it.  I'm very pleased with it, especially since it is a 404 club watch.

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On 2/23/2024 at 8:58 AM, AndyHull said:

So long as a leaking battery hasn't eaten anything important, there is a good chance it might just work.

No such luck. That said, it's also *very* hard to set and the date quickset doesn't appear to be working. I haven't uncased it yet, but there's no obvious evidence of a battery leak. To the project box!

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On 2/23/2024 at 4:15 PM, Zandr said:

On the way, the tiniest Accutron, and my first 404 club-eligible project (since I've learned about it, anyway). "Untested", so expectations are low.

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Flaming heck!

Any chance of opening the back please? Would like to see the movement.

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I own the original Omega professional Speedmaster Mark II (1975, 861 movement), which is stunning, but my real love is the 861 "Moon-watch".

Looking at the prices asked for these real "moon-watches" (and one doesn't even know in which condition the movement is), I'm afraid that one will stay a dream and the Mark II will be as close as I will ever get ........which is pretty darn close, so no complains here !! 🙂

However, today I discovered the Pagani Design PD-1701 V3, a design "borrowed" from, or as they like to say "inspired by", the Omega Speedmaster.

It has a Seiko VK63 quartz ("terrible") movement 😔, but with (at least something) a mechanical chronograph 😃.

My Mark II has a mineral glass crystal and I'm scared to scratch it, so sadly, despite I wished for that it could be different, it won't be my daily watch.

The Pagani PD-1701 V3 may just fill the gap; a "moon-watch" look, sapphire crystal and for "no" money; € 120 including shipment .......

The reviews are good, so I ordered one ...... 🤗

If, at a certain moment, it gets too "quartzy" for me, I can swap to the real deal 😎

Very curious about this Pagani 🫣

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I'm certainly not into quartz movements / watches, but I have to say that I'm impressed with how the VK63 is build; my hats off !

 

 

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@Endeavor I would much rather have the pagani with the seiko mechaquartz than the moonswatch for double the money. Been thinking about one of these for a while, please report back with your opinion on it.

 

Tom

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7 hours ago, tomh207 said:

double

€5000 - €6000 for an original Speedmaster, €120 for this one => 41 x or more 🙂

And the 861 movements are getting older and they have their, not easy to fix, wear & tear flaws.

Even though I'm not into quarts, I think this Seiko movement looks quite nice.

I'll give you a review in a few weeks time 😉

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