ramrod Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 What is the size of pocket watch movement that would fit a 35 - 40 mm case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klinej54 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 a 12s is a bit less than 40 and a 8s is a shade more than 35. here's a like for the sizes. https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maclerche Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 3 hours ago, klinej54 said: Very cool. I do mostly 18s but have always thought it would be neat to do a conversion. Here you can see mine, it is a 10s! https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/hamilton/X97106 If you lok at the size and the 917 movement in general, you will find that it looks a lot like ETA/unitas-6497 . The eta is from the 50's, the Hamilton 917 is from 1939. Where did Unitas get the idea?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svorkoetter Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Wearing my around-the-farm beater, a cavalry-dialed Amphibia today. I rarely bother setting the date, and today was no exception. Edited April 17, 2016 by svorkoetter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad101 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 My re-furbished Helvetia lots of work but it worked our well just need to give its name back. Even the most distressed watch on the bay can be given life if your prepared to put the work in 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) I'm probably going to make a new topic about this one just because it is a VERY special Timex: Today's watch has been worn all weekend including today; I just can't seem to get this Timex 400 off my wrist simply because it looks good AND sports a 17 Jewel Hatori (Seiko) 70-4 Caliber movement! (VERY accurate movement as well) Edited April 18, 2016 by jeffc83 Deleted fuzzy pic;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, jeffc83 said: I' I just can't seem to get this Timex 400 off my wrist simply because it looks good AND sports a 17 Jewel Hatori (Seiko) 70-4 Caliber movement! (VERY accurate movement as well) That is one of the very first movements that Japan made available for export (late 50s). After that Timex managed to by themselves. Post pictures of the movement when you have a chance. Edited April 18, 2016 by jdm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'm wearing my small Seiko diver today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, jdm said: That is one of the very first movements that Japan made available for export (late 50s). After that Timex managed to by themselves. Post pictures of the movement when you have a chance. I also just won the West German version of the 400 on Fleabay and it wasn't cheap, lol. (only manufactured for less than a year there) I was going to start a new thread about all this but there is not much love for Timex anyway so here's a quick shot of the movement at different angles/lighting. Yes, Timex was able to to produce a 21 Jewel Movement later on but it was no comparison to the quality of these versions. The 21 version is still nice but it's no Seiko:D Edited April 18, 2016 by jeffc83 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, jeffc83 said: I also just won the West German version 400 on Fleabay and it wasn't cheap, lol. (only manufactured for less than a year there) I was going to start a new thread about all this but there is not much love for Timex anyway so here's a quick shot of the movement at different angles/lighting. Wonderful, thanks. Look at the escape wheel taking all the possible space, no wonder it's accurate. I like to think how innovative and daring the Timex executives were to be going to Japan to buy, license, and then setup manuf. behind the iron curtain. All managed by phone and mail. What the Swiss were doing at the same time? Just counting easy, granted money I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) No problem. I still find the whole story nothing short of amazing! Was a great move on their part; it's shame the concept failed miserably. Edited April 18, 2016 by jeffc83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svorkoetter Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 34 minutes ago, jdm said: I like to think how innovative and daring the Timex executives were to be going to Japan to buy, license, and then setup manuf. behind the iron curtain. So you're saying that Timex switched from Japanese movements to USSR movements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 minute ago, svorkoetter said: So you're saying that Timex switched from Japanese movements to USSR movements? West Germany. Sorry, my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroppy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Is there a website that details all the workings of how Timex went about outsourcing for the movements and having them assembled elsewhere? I'm fascinated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroppy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 18 hours ago, svorkoetter said: Wearing my around-the-farm beater, a cavalry-dialed Amphibia today. I rarely bother setting the date, and today was no exception. The watch is great and greater still is the horse. I love dogs and horses. I wish I had the land to have a horse, even a miniature one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I am not totally in love with Timex, but I am really impressed with the movement that's pictured. Very high end looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 minute ago, stroppy said: Is there a website that details all the workings of how Timex went about outsourcing for the movements and having them assembled elsewhere? I'm fascinated! This was a pretty good read - http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/timex-corporation-history/ Of course the usual Wiki was informative as well:) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Group_USA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroppy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Okay...thanks Jeff...now I will go off and have a gander at those links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Pleasure; as a fair warning, my sickness got worse after reading up on the history of Timex so read up at your discretion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroppy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Just now, jeffc83 said: Pleasure; as a fair warning, my sickness got worse after reading up on the history of Timex so read up at your discretion Don't worry...I'm an old fart but I don't dent easily! Edited April 18, 2016 by stroppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffc83 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 hours ago, stroppy said: Don't worry...I'm an old fart but I don't dent easily! Good one;) I almost forgot one VERY important site that's FULL of useful info -> the Timex Forum. Now I am not a member there but it's worth at least paging through the topics. Start with this page, it is very detailed and specific about the history of Timex along with specific meaningful dates. I STILL go there to read;) http://www.network54.com/Realm/timexforum/timexfaqs.html#timeline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroppy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Jeff...I've had a bad bout of insomnia this past night but the reading material you gave me helped the night pass by. Thanks! I was engrossed by all the details...especially about the founders of the company and how one went a bit kooky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad101 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Charity shop find today the GENEVA Sport . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz12 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Nice... looks to be in reasonable nick as well! What will you use to clean the dial, or is it just the crystal that's marked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad101 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I have yet to open it up service and clean it found it last week but ill probably just clean face with a little soapy water its doesn't look very stained and I don't want to lose any lume the hands will just get a wipe nothing else sometimes its best to leave as is. I've been wearing it since six this morning and so far its keeping very good time I like to wear running watches for 24 hours to see how much they gain or lose with normal wear. Then ill service it wear it again see if its any better or (SOMETIMES WORSE ) But if its within a minute a day im happy but if its way off ill take it up to my local watch repairer who kindly lets me use his timing machine in return for the odd service when he has too much on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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