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3 hours ago, klinej54 said:

Very cool.  I do mostly 18s but have always thought it would be neat to do a conversion.

Here you can see mine, it is a 10s!   https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/hamilton/X97106

If you lok at the size and the 917 movement in general, you will find that it looks a lot like ETA/unitas-6497 . The eta is from the 50's, the Hamilton 917 is from 1939. Where did Unitas get the idea?? :pulling-hair-out:

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I'm probably going to make a new topic about this one just because it is a VERY special Timex:  Today's watch has been worn all weekend including today; I just can't seem to get this Timex 400 off my wrist simply because it looks good AND sports a 17 Jewel Hatori (Seiko) 70-4 Caliber movement!  (VERY accurate movement as well)

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28 minutes ago, jeffc83 said:

I' I just can't seem to get this Timex 400 off my wrist simply because it looks good AND sports a 17 Jewel Hatori (Seiko) 70-4 Caliber movement!  (VERY accurate movement as well)

That is one of the very first movements that Japan made available for export (late 50s). After that Timex managed to by themselves. Post pictures of the movement when you have a chance.

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34 minutes ago, jdm said:

That is one of the very first movements that Japan made available for export (late 50s). After that Timex managed to by themselves. Post pictures of the movement when you have a chance.

I also just won the West German version of the 400 on Fleabay and it wasn't cheap, lol. (only manufactured for less than a year there) I was going to start a new thread about all this but there is not much love for Timex anyway so here's a quick shot of the movement at different angles/lighting.

Yes, Timex was able to to produce a 21 Jewel Movement later on but it was no comparison to the quality of these versions.  The 21 version is still nice but it's no Seiko:D

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2 minutes ago, jeffc83 said:

I also just won the West German version 400 on Fleabay and it wasn't cheap, lol. (only manufactured for less than a year there) I was going to start a new thread about all this but there is not much love for Timex anyway so here's a quick shot of the movement at different angles/lighting.

Wonderful, thanks. Look at the escape wheel taking all the possible space, no wonder it's accurate. I like to think how innovative and daring the Timex executives were to be going to Japan to buy, license, and then setup manuf. behind the iron curtain. All managed by phone and mail. What the Swiss were doing at the same time? Just counting easy, granted money I think. 

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34 minutes ago, jdm said:

I like to think how innovative and daring the Timex executives were to be going to Japan to buy, license, and then setup manuf. behind the iron curtain.

So you're saying that Timex switched from Japanese movements to USSR movements?

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18 hours ago, svorkoetter said:

Wearing my around-the-farm beater, a cavalry-dialed Amphibia today. I rarely bother setting the date, and today was no exception.

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The watch is great and greater still is the horse.  I love dogs and horses.  I wish I had the land to have a horse, even a miniature one.

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1 minute ago, stroppy said:

Is there a website that details all the workings of how Timex went about outsourcing for the movements and having them assembled elsewhere?  I'm fascinated!

This was a pretty good read - http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/timex-corporation-history/

Of course the usual Wiki was informative as well:)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Group_USA

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Just now, jeffc83 said:

Pleasure; as a fair warning, my sickness got worse after reading up on the history of Timex so read up at your discretion;)  

Don't worry...I'm an old fart but I don't dent easily! :D

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3 hours ago, stroppy said:

Don't worry...I'm an old fart but I don't dent easily! :D

Good one;)  I almost forgot one VERY important site that's FULL of useful info -> the Timex Forum.  Now I am not a member there but it's worth at least paging through the topics.  Start with this page, it is very detailed and specific about the history of Timex along with specific meaningful dates.  I STILL go there to read;)

 http://www.network54.com/Realm/timexforum/timexfaqs.html#timeline

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I have yet to open it up service and clean it found it last week but ill probably just clean face with a little soapy water its doesn't look very stained and I don't want to lose any lume the hands will just get a wipe nothing else sometimes its best to leave as is. I've been wearing it since six this morning and so far its keeping very good time I like to wear running watches for 24 hours to see how much they gain or lose with normal wear. Then ill service it wear it again see if its any better or (SOMETIMES WORSE :D) But if its within a minute a day im happy but if its way off ill take it up to my local watch repairer who kindly lets me use his timing machine in return for the odd service when he has too much on.

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