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All right then.I baught some watches for practicing and developing my skills.The watch that I opened up is a russian "Raketa" with 2609.i movement and after some examination I have find out that the hairspring looks a litle unusual to other hairsprings.I unmounted the hairspring from the balace cock and voila it is bent.

I don`t know how severe is the bending but the pined pictures will tell.Any advice or tip is appreciated for startig to fix this bending.

Thanks in advance.

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This will depend on your skill. Working on h/springs takes a lot of practice. It is very difficult advising when its just a photo and you can’t see the thing at different angles. If it were me. I would start around the red arrow. You first need to get it on the correct side of the B/staff, and then proceed to shape it into the curl of the rest of the H/S. Don’t forget I cannot judge if it is bent high or low once it is the correct side of the staff.     

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That is badly damaged. Good for practice, but I'm not sure with my skills if I'd ever be able to get a satisfactory result from that. Metals "work harden" when you bend them, so it affects the characteristics of the spring, even if you manage to get the correct profile. It will be easier if you can get another god hairspring of the same type to compare to.

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Hi,

Sorry for the long delay of the results, but I`m back. So far so good I made some effort to sort the bending out.It is not an easy work to do but I liked it. The hairspring is far from being ready to be remounted, it still has some distortions that need repairing.Any advice, opinion is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Its coming along. Just make sure you don’t sneeze if you’re working on it. I did once and what a mess I’d made, had to buy a new one.  

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3 hours ago, rogart63 said:

Great work . I would have given up with such a bad hairspring . Have you looked at this? 

 

Yes I have seen this and I want to proceed more or less just like in the video.

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9 hours ago, rogart63 said:

 

This is a super video featuring a russian Raketa watch. Probably one day I master this technic. Thank you very much

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52 minutes ago, Andraska said:

This is a super video featuring a russian Raketa watch. Probably one day I master this technic. Thank you very much

Not sure how he even did it. Tried that but only end up even worse. Looked pretty dirty before so i reckon he maybe just cleaned it when he did that. It was a bad example and just put it up as a not to do and fun video. 

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Hi,

Back again. I come to a bottleneck in terms that I don`t know how to make the end curve. I made an imaginative sketch drawing on the picture taken of the actual balance bridge, "X" marks the maximum regulation point and thats where the end curve ends I think....:unsure:

Any advice, opinion is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi,

This is the result of the work I did.I still have a lot of work to do the hairspring is twisted, not concentric maybe the watch will remain as a practice time peace.How can i upload a video?

 

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55 minutes ago, Andraska said:

How can i upload a video?

Just like any other file from the "choose files" link below, or upload on a video website and post the the link.

  • 3 weeks later...
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The balance wheel issue is separate from the hairspring issue. Perhaps you accidentally moved it when you removed the hairspring?

Great job on fixing the hairspring!

Anilv

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