Jump to content

Longines 291(?) help

Chopin

By Chopin
in Watch Repairs Help & Advice

 Share

Recommended Posts

Chopin Super WRT Addict

Chopin

Posted
Posted (edited)

I have the opportunity to buy a lovely Longines watch but I'd like to know if this is an easy fix. Seller only says that a screw is missing from the oscillating weight and that that's why it's not installed on the movement.

I'm not sure how this one works and how it stays on the movement and I also feel like I see a screw on the weight in the picture. Could someone shed some light on this ? Should the weight have another component that goes into the slot or is just a screw necessary ?

There is a screw on the weight near the movement and I see it in the picture but I assume that's not what we're talking about...

Also, is this even a cal 291 or something else ?

Is the circle in the bag, around the weight, even part of all this ? Could it be some sort of a ring for the movement ? Doesn't seem like it...

20170923_094937.jpg

Edited by Chopin
Link to comment
Share on other sites
wls1971 Distinguished Member

wls1971

Posted
Posted

It is a calibre 291 the rotor sits on a post at the centre of the movement and the screw on the rotor is used to secure it to the post. It is probably the rotor post that has broken, these are listed as obsolete on the cousins web site, it is a common problem with this movement I dont know if any other supplier would hold this particular part. The ring looks like a tension ring from a watch crystal and is not a part of the movement such as a movement spacer ring as this one is held in place with clamps

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chopin Super WRT Addict

Chopin

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, wls1971 said:

It is a calibre 291 the rotor sits on a post at the centre of the movement and the screw on the rotor is used to secure it to the post. It is probably the rotor post that has broken, these are listed as obsolete on the cousins web site, it is a common problem with this movement I dont know if any other supplier would hold this particular part. The ring looks like a tension ring from a watch crystal and is not a part of the movement such as a movement spacer ring as this one is held in place with clamps

Is this post a separate part that gets screwed/attached onto the movement and then you attach the weight or is it attached to the weight itself ?

It's most likely hard to find so only solution would be a donor movement...

Edited by Chopin
Link to comment
Share on other sites
wls1971 Distinguished Member

wls1971

Posted
Posted

Yes the post is a separate part that is secured with two screws from the under side of the bridge, why not ask for clarification from the seller as to what part is missing or broken if its just one of the screws that holds the rotor post in place it should be easy enough to find a suitable one to use but if it is the post that broken then you will have trouble finding one as you say the way to go would be a donor movement but that may start to make the good price look a little less appealing

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chopin Super WRT Addict

Chopin

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)

Seller doesn't seem knowledgeable. I got another picture from him. Is that the post ? Not the best picture sadly...

20170923_123831.jpg

I think I can see a screw and a missing one... Am I wrong ? Do you have to detach it from the weight to install it onto the movement ? I see no other way...

Edited by Chopin
Link to comment
Share on other sites
clockboy Distinguished Member

clockboy

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Chopin said:

I have the opportunity to buy a lovely Longines watch but I'd like to know if this is an easy fix. Seller only says that a screw is missing from the oscillating weight and that that's why it's not installed on the movement.

I'm not sure how this one works and how it stays on the movement and I also feel like I see a screw on the weight in the picture. Could someone shed some light on this ? Should the weight have another component that goes into the slot or is just a screw necessary ?

There is a screw on the weight near the movement and I see it in the picture but I assume that's not what we're talking about...

Also, is this even a cal 291 or something else ?

Is the circle in the bag, around the weight, even part of all this ? Could it be some sort of a ring for the movement ? Doesn't seem like it...

20170923_094937.jpg

It's a real pity because looking the movement it is in really good condition apart from the screw or post has been broken. The 291 is obsolete so its up for sale.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
wls1971 Distinguished Member

wls1971

Posted
Posted

No the post sits directly in the middle of the movement and is not part or the rotor itself. If the watch is very cheap I would take a punt and factor in the cost of a donor movement if its only slightly cheaper than a  runner walk away.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
clockboy Distinguished Member

clockboy

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, wls1971 said:

No the post sits directly in the middle of the movement and is not part or the rotor itself. If the watch is very cheap I would take a punt and factor in the cost of a donor movement if its only slightly cheaper than a  runner walk away.

If it is just the post it should be possible to make one,  if you have a lathe that is !!!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chopin Super WRT Addict

Chopin

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)

So, basically, there should be another part between the movement and the rotor right ? I was hoping that the thing on the underside of the rotor might be it but I guess it's not... Wish I could find a schematic of the movement and see what that part looks like...

No lathe. Not that advanced I'm afraid...

Edited by Chopin
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chopin Super WRT Addict

Chopin

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)

Is it this one below ? I keep finding it listed for other calibers so I guess it might be interchangeable... Very pricey sadly.

This part should replace the one marked axle by @wls1971 right ? I'm assuming you remove the top plate, install the new one, put the plate back and then screw it in place with those 2 screws and then the rotor... ?

image.thumb.png.063b2dddc4b7168151160c03f226d33a.png

I wonder if there's a chance that it might not be broken and it's just missing the screws...Only close up shot I have.

20170923_094947.jpg

Edited by Chopin
Link to comment
Share on other sites
wls1971 Distinguished Member

wls1971

Posted
Posted
25 minutes ago, rogart63 said:

Is the 290 post the same as the 291. I now where you can find one. Send me a PM and i can give you the contact. 

Yes calibre 290 no date calibre 291 addition of date at either 12 o'clock or at 3 o'clock 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • HorologyHead
      Can someone please explain watchmaker service mark interpretation?

      By HorologyHead · Posted

      H Watch Repairers—is there is a ‘standard format’ for the service marks or codes lightly engraved inside cases of pocket watches or wristwatches?   Sometimes I can see there might be a reference to year/ month but other times am confused. I’ve included an image of the rear of a 1951 Hamilton 992B Railroad pocket watch as an example. Thank you for all information you can give, Mike
    • HorologyHead
      Intro

      By HorologyHead · Posted

      Hi to Blackminou29–am a collector/ caretaker—good luck to you following your repair course—with hindsight I wish I’d pursued a career in both watchmaker/ jeweler fields—good luck with whatever career passion you engage.   Thank you Watchweasol for posting the amazing TZIllustratedGlossary! Best wishes, Mike
    • JohnR725
      Seiko 6601 Tech Sheet?

      By JohnR725 · Posted

      yes I noticed the new site and I miss the old site. It's the unfortunate problem of the Internet here today gone tomorrow sometimes some of the stuff gets backed up and sometimes well it does not then the problem with the early Seiko's were there were not necessarily designed for distribution across the planet and as such there is no customer support for them. So trying to find early stuff like technical information or sometimes even parts list for older Seiko is is problematic. But I did find you a you tube video. A quick look he seems to take a heck of a lot of time to actually get to the service single I did not watch all that but it does look like he did disassemble or started to say there's a tiny bit here  
    • HorologyHead
      An intro…

      By HorologyHead · Posted

      RichardHarris123: Hello and welcome from Leeds, England.  I have family all over Australia, went as £10 poms Thanks Richard. Hope you’re able to visit your family here and that they’ve all done well 🙂 My relatives arrived from England in the 1790s transported on the ‘Second & Third Fleets’—a story of timber sailing ships, of convicts and doing well in this huge Country of Australia. When I visited the UK in the 1980s, I was too young to comprehend the depth and breadth of its history…  Best wishes, Mike William Chapman, my 4th great Grandad’s charges, at age 23 read at the Old Bailey; sentenced to 7 years of transportation to Sydney.
    • Endeavor
      New balance staff not riveting to balance

      By Endeavor · Posted

      The whole process and the progress are closely observed, it's hand-driven and very controlled. I can't see the "danger", unless you are watching the TV while doing it. As you could have read, and in this quote "wheel" is the balance-wheel.
×
×
  • Create New...