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Banged up Seiko SRB43J1


MattiSenturk

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Hi! I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I bought a bit banged up Seiko cocktail time what could I do to remove scratches from it? I ordered some polywatch after some research as it proved itself quite usefull for the glass, but I was wondering what should I order/use to use for scrathces on metal parts or what would you do? ty for any tips!

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4 hours ago, MattiSenturk said:

 I ordered some polywatch after some research as it proved itself quite usefull for the glass, but I was wondering what should I order/use to use for scrathces on metal parts or what would you do? 

That is surprising, as that product is specified for plastic / acrylic crystals, but your watch is has an Hardlex (hardened glass) crystal.

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4 hours ago, jdm said:

That is surprising, as that product is specified for plastic / acrylic crystals, but your watch is has an Hardlex (hardened glass) crystal.

But will it work, what do you think? I saw someone fixing some olders seiko glasses with it (they seemed to be made out of the same stuff)

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10 minutes ago, vinn3 said:

   i have never  tryed to replace a Hardlex with an acrylic .    would you have to re machine the bezel.    i'd like to do that.    vin 

No I would try to do just a tiny coverup job, scartches are very light and it could be done without taking anything apart

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20 minutes ago, MattiSenturk said:

But will it work, what do you think? I saw someone fixing some olders seiko glasses with it (they seemed to be made out of the same stuff)

No. For scratches on glass you need first wet paper on a rotary tool, then finish with diamond paste. Many thread on the subject here.

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Well there did go my hope :D luckily the scratches aren’t that noticeable in the glass I guess I will just use some cape cod polishing cloths for the damaged metal and get saphire changed to the glass when I service it?

10 minutes ago, jdm said:

No. For scratches on glass you need first wet paper on a rotary tool, then finish with diamond paste. Many thread on the subject here.

 

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1 minute ago, MattiSenturk said:

I guess I will just use some cape cod polishing cloths for the damaged metal and get saphire changed to the glass when I service it?

Polishing cloth may be good for what collectors call "hairlines" but will do nothing to scratches. As Nucejoe correctly indicated above, use the search function to learn how that type of repair is done.

You can't replace your watch high dome crystal with a sapphire because these are not manufactured in that particular shape. That is also the reason why Seiko didn't originally fit one on the Cocktail Time, unlike the other SARB line models.

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3 minutes ago, jdm said:

Polishing cloth may be good for what collectors call "hairlines" but will do nothing to scratches. As Nucejoe correctly indicated above, use the search function to learn how that type of repair is done.

You can't replace your watch high dome crystal with a sapphire because these are not manufactured in that particular shape. That is also the reason why Seiko didn't originally fit one on the Cocktail Time, unlike the other SARB line models.

Okay thats intresting, I was hoping to uprage to sapphire and I was talking about scratches on metal parts. But I also saw a ad for something called ”scratch genie” could it do the job?

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7 minutes ago, MattiSenturk said:

Well there did go my hope :D luckily the scratches aren’t that noticeable in the glass I guess I will just use some cape cod polishing cloths for the damaged metal and get saphire changed to the glass when I service it?

 

    was it silocon oxide that came before diamond paper?   in any event,   you should look up various methods.   vin

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2 minutes ago, MattiSenturk said:

Okay thats intresting, I was hoping to uprage to sapphire and I was talking about scratches on metal parts. But I also saw a ad for something called ”scratch genie” could it do the job?

Take a good picture in the current conditions, apply the miraculous product, then picture again.
We'll talk then.

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37 minutes ago, TheFixer said:

Just fit a new glass.

Well, as mentioned above that is a special shape glass, the original could be in excess of USD 50, if you can find it.
Fortunately when using the proper techniques crystals can be polished to perfection.

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16 minutes ago, jdm said:

Well, as mentioned above that is a special shape glass, the original could be in excess of USD 50, if you can find it.
Fortunately when using the proper techniques crystals can be polished to perfection.

Yeah I’ll gather up info and search some ways to try if it all goes wrong I’ll just support my local professionals and let them put brand new one

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Just now, MattiSenturk said:

Yeah I’ll gather up info and search some ways to try if it all goes wrong I’ll just support my local professionals and let them put brand new one

Isn't difficult to polish a glass when using the proper tools, material and technique. To be on the safe side practice on something other watch first.

If you give a Seiko watch to a local repairer expect them to complain they can't get parts for it, as Seiko USA sells only to the dealers and centers having an account. But mov't parts are easy to get.

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5 minutes ago, jdm said:

Isn't difficult to polish a glass when using the proper tools, material and technique. To be on the safe side practice on something other watch first.

If you give a Seiko watch to a local repairer expect them to complain they can't get parts for it, as Seiko USA sells only to the dealers and centers having an account. But mov't parts are easy to get.

I live in Finland and my friend named one place that has these cocktailtime glasses available but yeah I’ll propably give it a go first myself. Are there some tools that you recommend/ you use yourself for the job?

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Just now, MattiSenturk said:

I live in Finland and my friend named one place that has these cocktailtime glasses available but yeah I’ll propably give it a go first myself. Are there some tools that you recommend/ you use yourself for the job?

Have a search for "polishing crystal" or similar terms. 

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40 minutes ago, jdm said:

Well, as mentioned above that is a special shape glass, the original could be in excess of USD 50, if you can find it.
Fortunately when using the proper techniques crystals can be polished to perfection.

How much does it cost to have someone polish such a glass inc materials and labour.

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2 minutes ago, TheFixer said:

How much does it cost to have someone polish such a glass inc materials and labour.

Full guess but here probably around 50-90€ but I think they will want to change the glass straight away because of the amount of labour needed. Kinda sucks tho cuz the watch is worth like 300€ max

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1 hour ago, TheFixer said:

How much does it cost to have someone polish such a glass inc materials and labour.

Well, this being a (mainly) hobbyist repair forum -as opposed to a collector's- the idea is to share and and teach how things are done. And polishing is a good example of something easy and rewarding.

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51 minutes ago, jdm said:

Well, this being a (mainly) hobbyist repair forum -as opposed to a collector's- the idea is to share and and teach how things are done. And polishing is a good example of something easy and rewarding.

Yeah I came here just for that tips for taking care of things in more sustainable way in long run! Thank you very much for your toughts and opinions btw! Such a nice community you have here!

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