What is this movement?

[Henry1111111]

Hello, I recently purchased this pocket watch and it needs repairing. I need to find out what the movement is because I need to buy new parts or get a donor movement. Thank you in advance 

[Len33]

I don't know the make of the watch, but I do know that it will test your patience when it comes to putting it back together again!

Anyway, I hope you find the answer that you seek...........good luck.

 

[oldhippy]

We need to see the keyless work. So you need to remove the movement from the case, also remove the hands and dial and take a good clear photo and post that. 

[rogart63]

What size does the movement have. And as oldhippy says it would be easier if we could see the keyless work. My guess  is a  FHF movement. 

[Henry1111111]

11 hours ago, oldhippy said:

We need to see the keyless work. So you need to remove the movement from the case, also remove the hands and dial and take a good clear photo and post that. 

[Henry1111111]

42 minutes ago, Henry1111111 said:

[oldhippy]

I cant find the ID in my bestfit books. What I have noticed with your photo is the Clutch Lever is missing.

Any other members on here that can help Henry. 

[Tmuir]

I cant ID it in my Ebauches S.A book, what is the diameter of the movement as that will also help to identifiy it.

[VWatchie]

6 hours ago, oldhippy said:

I cant find the ID in my bestfit books. What I have noticed with your photo is the Clutch Lever is missing.

Any other members on here that can help Henry. 

Clutch lever = yoke = return bar? Trying to get to grips with as much watch parts terminology as I can!

[Henry1111111]

On 7/19/2019 at 2:55 PM, Tmuir said:

I cant ID it in my Ebauches S.A book, what is the diameter of the movement as that will also help to identifiy it.

It is a 40 mm across 

[WatchMaker]

40mm puts this at a 17.75 ligne movement. This isn't as common as 18 ligne movements but I've looked at a lot of both and come up blank with a match to your movement. [Just to double check ... your first picture shows your movement with a holder ring; the second without so the 40mm should be the measurement without the ring. Yes?].

Tantalisingly there's a '408' on this movement ring but I can't find this relates to anything relevant. Are there no other marks on the movement e.g. if you remove the balance is there something there? Also did the movement come with a dial; does this offer any clues to at least a brand that might point in the right direction?

[HSL]

I'm not sure but there were not many using that kind of quirky setup with the Yoke on the right side and the spring on the left but it was used by MST on like their 15X (154-158 and 139) movements. Maybe some movement based on those?