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  1. I am not a pocket watch expert but in lieu of someone with better knowledge posting a reply I can at least make some hopefully useful comments... The three wheat sheafs and sword symbol on the case tie this to the Chester assay office which, with the letter 'O' date this to 1897. Whilst I can't identify the movement maker for you I don't believe your steer towards Elgin is correct. The layout of the movement you've found doesn't match but also realise this was a US maker and your pocket watch seems very 'English' if we consider all the markings. Also crucially note that the escapement design is the English Lever type. As a suggestion use the google image search facility and see if any of the above gets you any closer with relevant search terms e.g. english lever 1897.
  2. There's a very good match to a Longines 18.63 / 18.64 if you compare your pics to the layout and plate holes of http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Longines_18_64 Does the rest of the movement, along with the measurements etc. on this ranfft page, tie up?
  3. Good news. Thanks for coming back with the update.
  4. I dealt with one of these a long time ago and seem to recall the wheel will separate for cleaning. Just done a search online and this assembly video ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zzK2NiJ9c ... supports that.
  5. I'm with @vinn3 ... assuming it's used for its intended purpose and that is a cleaning product to dab away residues, particles etc. I say this because I have learnt the hard way that Rodico has properties that in some cases may not be welcome. I once disassembled a watch that I found needed some hard-to-find part so left the disassembled watch in an air-tight box with easy-to-loose parts (screws; springs) gently placed on clean Rodico. When I came to reassemble the watch I found that a bridge had also rested on the Rodico and it had completely discoloured the bridge where it was touching. Sure you could say 'my bad' as I'd created this situation but then again Rodico is advertised for use for picking up parts (holding them) and wiping across parts (cleaning them) along with words like 'harmless to skin' and 'non corrosive' so I was a little put out! I'm still a user of Rodico but now you realise the caveat in my first sentence!
  6. I know the standard size is 0.20mm so what is the 'wide bore' tube size you're after? Cousins, and other sources, do sub dial hands at 0.26mm for instance but if you can confirm the tube size you're after there may be alternatives.
  7. What should happen is that when you push the stem into a movement, and tighten down the setting lever screw, you're basically moving the setting lever into position such that, as @Nucejoe says, the 'pin' on the setting lever locks into position in the groove in the stem. You say everything is fine when the movement is out of the case; this only happens when you try and re-case. This therefore sounds like the stem is too short ... or that there is some obstruction (e.g. dirt in the crown) that is stopping it pushing in fully. If the stem is not far enough into the movement then when you screw the setting lever into position the pin will not engage with the stem and it will subsequently pull straight out when you try and use it as you're finding! Is this the original stem/crown that came with the movement and case or is this one of the replacements you mention? If it is the original then first check there is nothing in the crown that might be causing a slight obstruction. Now with the movement out of the case engage the stem and check the setting works as expected. Pull the stem into the setting position before unscrewing the setting lever screw just enough to remove the stem. Recase the movement and push the stem/crown in and ensure it is properly engaged before tightening down the setting lever screw. [Conversely if it is not the original stem then it sounds like it could be fractionally short and not going into the movement enough ... come back if this is the case for more advice!].
  8. LOL ... no problems @Nucejoe! I know you're a very helpful and knowledgeable forum member so valued your feedback. Thanks for explaining the emoji glitch! All the best.
  9. Hi @Nucejoe ... if you let me know why you've left a 'confused' emoji I'll try and clarify! You may want to look at http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Gruen_100 first though.
  10. I think your identification is correct ... in which case this FHF Robert is the same as the Gruen 100 / 101. This takes a balance staff with the Ronda number 1144. If you go to the Cousins page https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filter/ronda-staffs-by-ronda-number you can search for balance staffs by Ronda number and I see they'll do you a pack of 12 for £8.95. Worth searching other suppliers too. Alternatively if we're pretty confident with the ID and now knowing that your FHF = Gruen 100 /101 (which also according to ranfft are the same as the Gruen 620, 623, 626, 627 as differences not known between these six models) it could be worth a search on a site like ebay for any complete movement going that has a good balance.
  11. Here are some useful photos: https://watchguy.co.uk/cgi-bin/library?action=show_photos&wat_id=2478
  12. Good advice above and if you're just starting out you can't go far wrong with the style @Nucejoe mentions which looks like this: And сделано в ссср on the bottom of the dial? It simply means 'Made in USSR'!
  13. 40mm puts this at a 17.75 ligne movement. This isn't as common as 18 ligne movements but I've looked at a lot of both and come up blank with a match to your movement. [Just to double check ... your first picture shows your movement with a holder ring; the second without so the 40mm should be the measurement without the ring. Yes?]. Tantalisingly there's a '408' on this movement ring but I can't find this relates to anything relevant. Are there no other marks on the movement e.g. if you remove the balance is there something there? Also did the movement come with a dial; does this offer any clues to at least a brand that might point in the right direction?
  14. I've just measured some of the generic shepherds crook springs that you can get from Cousins: https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/shepherds-hook-springs-wristwatch Whilst these of course aren't click springs, they do come in a variety of widths ... including the 0.15mm you need. They're also quite large so should give enough material to perhaps adapt / shape for the click spring you need. They're also inexpensive so might be worth a punt if you come up blank through other routes. Just an idea...
  15. Stainless steel hard wire of 0.15mm for spring applications definitely exists: https://stainless-wire.co.uk/hard-wire-piano-wire/coils-o-0-10-to-0-80mm/product/stainless-steel-hard-wire-13815.html Now just to try and find smaller quantities...! I've read it's sometimes used by anglers to make lures so this may be another avenue...?
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