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Thanks Del, nice tool, I found this ...great info

Just a quick review of the “Horotec Screwdriver sharper” I have always tried to keep my screwdrivers sharp & in good condition but found that despite this I was still (on occasions) getting slips. Some of it this may well be my method of handling them but also I noticed that many pro,s use screwdrivers that have different shaped blades. After some research I found that this is because many use a “Horotec Screwdriver sharper” (or equivalent) but unfortunately the cost does carry a prohibitive price of £175. However feeling plush last month I purchased one & after waiting a few weeks for it to be in stock, today I have started to use my re-shaped screwdrivers. My initial impression is that this tool offers a very quick method of shaping/reshaping your screwdrivers & it really does give them a round shape not the usual V shape. see below: This round shape defiantly gives more stability on the screw. There is however a few issues to be aware of. First: It is adjustable for the different screwdriver blade widths via altering the distance between the two rollers. As yet I am not sure if this is necessary or at least a critical adjustment as the final de-burring & tip flattening of the screwdriver blade seems to be more than adequate to make a good stable tight fit on the screw head. Secondly:The tool is supplied with three holders for the different screwdriver shaft diameters (4.3mm, 4.8mm,5.3mm) This works great for my most used screwdrivers which are Horotech. However my lager screwdrivers (from 1.6mm) are Swiss A*F & their shaft diameters is too large. So for now I will still use these with the old shaped blades but eventually I will change them for Horotech. Finally: I suspect I will still also need conventional shaped screw drivers as well so this is pricey for an amateur but …… I do like tools. Del

All fixed now.

i bought these several months ago. both are (still) nonrunners. they were an absolute mess when i got them. the schmutz that i cleaned off of the cases was....well/////gros. i should have taken before and after pictures. here are two pics of them. i apologize for the dust.

Hello winchman welcome to the forum. If the movement on this watch is a Bettlach, have a lot of EB 8800 movement parts including balance. Just send me a message when you're ready. JC

First I must confess that I've never seen one of these before. Remove the screw and the small plate and see if the centre wheel pinion protrudes through as it should. If it does protrude, it may have an a grove in it in which the plate will sit. If it does, replace the plate and tighten the screw. It might be a strange method of eliminating end float of the centre wheel. This is only a guess.

So, a lot of the guys on this forum really know their stuff and are heavily involved in servicing and the like. Some of the other forums have groups of 'fanboys' (I suppose they might be called) who will defend their brand of choice to the death. I got into horology through Seiko because of their low entry point (for mechanicals). To use an analogy, I'm probably still using stabilisers when it comes to knowledge. What I'm getting at in a roundabout way is....Should I be surprised that so many people on this forum love their Seikos so much? N.b. I've got several Seiko watches, so to mix it up a bit here's my Bulova Accutron Deep sea from 1970 (same age as me)

This one today. Managed to fix the damaged clasp. Like new dial and hands Came to me like this

The bin is something unknown to watchmakers [emoji4] I suggest that you try to do things the proper way without using force or breaking things. It is part of a quality approach to this hobby.

If you want to get into repairing watches you should start on pocket watches first because they are a lot bigger. Look on the net for pictures of pocket watches, then manual wrist watches and you will see what I mean. Don't bother with fusee pocket watches they are very different. Learn the names of the parts and just practice the taking apart and putting together, you don't have to bother getting it to work. Look up the various tools you will need to start you off. There's plenty of info on here about that just do a search.

Greetings and Salutations! I agree, pictures are great.

Welcome Steve, glad you found us. Me too, am looking forward to learn more about your progress. Cheers, Bob

Welcome SteveG. Marks videos are very good no matter what stage you are at in your hobby. Look forward to your input and might we have a few photos of your progress watch work.

Off topic, but relevant for SSTEEL: http://finnishcanadian.com/profiles/blogs/topnotch-treatment-for-tinnitus