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Bit of a sticky wicket that one...It appears to be a single sunk porcelain  dial from a pocket watch no? If it is, then the sub dial was soldered in place and then the dial was fired. To repair the dial can be re soldered but will the heat to do so crack or discolour the porcelain? A better option would be to use a high quality two part clear epoxy. All of this would depend on the value of the dial be it monetary or sentimental...If the dial is indeed porcelain, then the line edge would need to be addressed and sealed on the face side as well to prevent hairlines from forming. The one thing going for you is the fact it is such a clean break. Wonder how the damage happened?

Hopefully some one with dial experience will chime in...curious myself as to the best way to proceed.

Ron

 

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I would be more inclined towards the epoxy myself although the gel types of cyanoacrylate super glues are tempting to use for their convenience. Another concern I have heard of using modern glues is the aspect of off gassing contaminating the parts inside the watch...where are our dial experts when one needs them...

Ron

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Epoxy would be my choice too. I would let it cure fully, and then let it air out for at least a week or 2 to make sure all the gases have evaporated.

With soldering, I'be afraid that the expansion of the base metal would cause the enamel to crack.

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2 hours ago, frenchie said:

Epoxy would be my choice too. I would let it cure fully, and then let it air out for at least a week or 2 to make sure all the gases have evaporated.

With soldering, I'be afraid that the expansion of the base metal would cause the enamel to crack.

Looking at the video szbalogh posted  it looks like they solder it in after enameling is done. But it is a nice clean dial, I would hate to literally toast it.

 

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