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At they are selling it as sold as seen and not a genuine article. As Bod said, it would be good to see inside but the fact nothing seems to fit clearly shows it's not right. The dial is quite impressive - I didn't know you could do that!

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I'm not even sure if the chapter ring goes with that dial, look at the nasty way it has been riveted on with steel rivets at 12,3,6, and 9. I have trouble believing that the original maker would fit it so clumsily.

It's hard to tell from the photo but the dial also looks like it has gaps below and to the left so it does not fit the hood.

I'm also guessing those hinges are not original either.

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The case and style of the clock looks ok its made of oak, the dial also looks original apart from the re work and fitted blanks (badly) which would mean a movement change. Normal Wm Hargreaves 1741 to 1813.  clocks go for around £800 to £1000 plus as this is offered at £250  and the fact there are no movement pictures  bascially its a Bitsa (marriage) Settle is in North Yorkshire near Skipton, My home county.

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Many longcase clocks had the bottom either cut off or added due to the fact most of them stood on stone floors and were subject to a great deal of damp as the floors were scrubbed and swilled off with water with little regard to the clocks that stood on them. only on the big houses did they stand on oak or pine floors and did not suffer as much. 

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The taper pin on the center arbor is the only way I know there isn't a quartz movement hiding in there.  Outside of that, not specializing in this kind of clock, seeing mismatching with appearance and fit and finish would make me wary enough to stay clear of it, unless I became determined to restore it.

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15 minutes ago, KarlvonKoln said:

The taper pin on the center arbor is the only way I know there isn't a quartz movement hiding in there.  Outside of that, not specializing in this kind of clock, seeing mismatching with appearance and fit and finish would make me wary enough to stay clear of it, unless I became determined to restore it.

A waste of money restoring this. It would be throwing good after bad. 

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