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Paul78

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Hi, and Merry Christmas everyone!

I could do with some  help with this movement, the click has broken, and i have no idea what the movement is to see if i can find another one. The click slides through a hole in the movement and has a slot at one end for the spring to sit in but as you can see by the pics, one side has snapped off so it doesn't work at all. Do we have any pocket watch experts who can help me? Ive included a some images of the actual movement too. As you can see, the only identification there is, is the number 678427...

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I think you will need a copy of the best fit catalogue. Its a must for anyone that repairs old watches and pocket watches. Someone on here might have a copy and could be willing to look it up for you. It's a good idea to look on ebay now and then and snap up these old I D catalogues because they are a God send. I wish I hadn't sold mine I would have been able to have help so many on here. 

 

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To identify watches we have something called the fingerprint system. The setting parts of each watch are supposed to be uniquely shaped and sized  So it's not just unique to the Bestfit book other books have the setting parts I've attached images.But they don't cover every single watch made unfortunately. To use them you do need the physical size and the images in the book are supposed to be the exact size of the parts. Which is nice if you're holding the parts in your hand you can lay them over the book providing you can find them.

So three different books starting at 9 lignes to 11 or 12 nothing that resembles what you have. My suspicion is yours may predate this system Then there's always the possibility that it's books may be somewhat region specific as these were published in the US. They may not cover every single watch so there may be European books that cover watches not available here

 

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2 hours ago, clockboy said:

i have had a quick look at my Best Fit books but no luck . Have you a pic of the setting lever as this might be more helpful with the ID

You can see just about all of the setting lever in that last pic, that's basically it, the setting lever spring is also the spring for the click, the shorter end fits into the slot. The longer curved end against the set lever. 

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