Pocket Watch From Gunfight at the OK Coral?

[jdrichard]

I have this vintage Elgin pocket watch that I repaired and from it’s serial number 805552, it was made in 1880. The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral was a 30-second shootout between lawmen and members of a loosely organized group of outlaws called the Cowboys that took place at about 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona Territory. It is generally regarded as the most famous shootout in the history of the American Wild West. The gunfight was the result of a long-simmering feud, with Cowboys Billy Claiborne, Ike and Billy Clanton, and Tom and Frank McLaury on one side and town Marshal Virgil Earp, Special Policeman Morgan Earp, Special Policeman Wyatt Earp, and temporary policeman Doc Holliday on the other side. At the gunfight the boys were wearing pocket watches as shown below.

 

So, would anyone know what pocket watches were worn by the good guys.?

 

This is the Elgin I have from 1880, and now runs really strong and accurate.

 

 

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[AndyHull]

Make of this what you will.

https://dochollidaylive.biz/docs-watch/

How much of the story is real, and how much is invented, I'll leave for you to decide.

I suspect the majority of them wore the equivalent of the Timex of the period.

[vinn3]

14 minutes ago, AndyHull said:

Make of this what you will.

https://dochollidaylive.biz/docs-watch/

How much of the story is real, and how much is invented, I'll leave for you to decide.

I suspect the majority of them wore the equivalent of the Timex of the period.

     good refural.      another famous one was " the dollar watch".   aprox 1900.   vin

[jdrichard]

Make of this what you will.
https://dochollidaylive.biz/docs-watch/

How much of the story is real, and how much is invented, I'll leave for you to decide.
I suspect the majority of them wore the equivalent of the Timex of the period.

I read the story, very very interesting. I would be very cool if that was his pocket watch.


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[AndyHull]

You might like this.

The gunfight took place on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, the above watch serial number is from 1882, but that model was first produced in 1880.

So this is the kind of watch that you would have been looking at in the window of the watch shops that year.

http://elginwatches.org/cgi-bin/elgin_sn?sn=1178868&action=search

Summary..

Serial Number   SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code   jewels Adj/reg/etc.
--------------  -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------
       1178868   1175001   5000      1882  87    18s hfn1k     11j


grade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name
----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ----------
 87   33000   8        1880     1883    5    18s  hfn1k     11j

The Elgin in the previous posts is from 1881.

 

http://elginwatches.org/cgi-bin/elgin_sn?sn=805552&action=search

Summary.

Serial Number   SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code   jewels Adj/reg/etc.
--------------  -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------
        805552    805001   1000      1881   3*   16s h3g3l     15j Adj ?


grade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name
----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ----------
  3   24800  24        1879     1895   24    16s  h3g3l     15j Adj

(*) notes on grade 3:  # Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SN<700,000 have a steel barrel washer


Class 24:         16s HC 3/4 lever model 3
      3      24800 made 15j Adj gilded  Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SN<700,000 have a steel barrel washer
      4      31000 made 15j Adj  Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SN<1,300,000 have a steel barrel washer

Edited February 26, 2020 by AndyHull

[JJM]

Seems Legit ;} 

[jdrichard]

Seems Legit ;} 

Funny


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[jdrichard]

You might like this.
[/url] The gunfight took place on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, the above watch serial number is from 1882, but that model was first produced in 1880.
So this is the kind of watch that you would have been looking at in the window of the watch shops that year.
http://elginwatches.org/cgi-bin/elgin_sn?sn=1178868&action=search
Summary..

Serial Number   SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code   jewels Adj/reg/etc.--------------  -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------      1178868   1175001   5000      1882  87    18s hfn1k     11jgrade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ----------87   33000   8        1880     1883    5    18s  hfn1k     11j

The Elgin in the previous posts is from 1881.
 
http://elginwatches.org/cgi-bin/elgin_sn?sn=805552&action=search
Summary.

Serial Number   SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code   jewels Adj/reg/etc.--------------  -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------       805552    805001   1000      1881   3*   16s h3g3l     15j Adj ?grade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ---------- 3   24800  24        1879     1895   24    16s  h3g3l     15j Adj(*) notes on grade 3:  # Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SNClass 24:         16s HC 3/4 lever model 3     3      24800 made 15j Adj gilded  Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SN      4      31000 made 15j Adj  Elgin MCs say a few were 14s  # SN>1,600,000 have REG_OLD_RR_PAT  SN

Bunn Special is always fun to watch:)


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[AndyHull]

22 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

Bunn Special is always fun to watch:)

I think he knows more choice and colourful phrases than I do, and that is saying something.

[FLwatchguy73]

Bunn Special is OK, though he seems very confused most of the time, lol. Doctor watches and clocks is a bit of a goof.. imo. I had to remind him about shop safety after watching him run a polishing buffer while holding a wrag in his hand, very stressful to watch. 

[jdrichard]

Bunn Special is OK, though he seems very confused most of the time, lol. Doctor watches and clocks is a bit of a goof.. imo. I had to remind him about shop safety after watching him run a polishing buffer while holding a wrag in his hand, very stressful to watch. 

You need to watch my videos and give me some feedback jdrichard01


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[Graziano]

32 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

You need to watch my videos and give me some feedback jdrichard01


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Your videos are great you just need to burp a bit more

[Graziano]

This pocket watch wasn't at the gun fight ,it should only be seen in the sunlight ,it's very good on your eyesight,but if you want to see in in the moonlight, be careful you don't get a snake bite.................,Oh I'm a poet. Check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjx6lxJl78Q&feature=youtu.be

Edited March 11, 2020 by Graziano

[AndyHull]

On 3/10/2020 at 2:17 AM, FLwatchguy73 said:

Doctor watches and clocks is a bit of a goof.. imo. I had to remind him about shop safety

He is entertaining, but his technique is a little woolly. I pointed out he had failed to re-fit the bridge screws on a Sekonda pocket watch. The whole thing was hanging together with friction and luck.

He had even re-cased the movement, polished the case and declared the job done, with these three screws still sitting in the tray.

I guess the lesson here, is that if you post YouTube videos, all your mistakes are up there for all to criticise, whereas when I send the same spring flying three times, and screw up the keyless work twice in the process (as I did last night), nobody will ever know.... err.. apart from you guys of course, and you wouldn't tell any one, would you?

[FLwatchguy73]

8 hours ago, jdrichard said:

You need to watch my videos and give me some feedback jdrichard01


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I've watched a couple of them. Not nearly the production quality of Mark's videos, but good nonetheless. Most viewers prefer sped up videos with voice over, because watch repair can be a bit tedious for the average, non-hobbyist. Myself, I don't mind detailed teardowns because I'm always looking for something new to learn.  In a previous comment, Graziano said you need more burping, please for the love of Father Time, don't do that! It's so annoying, distracting and unprofessional! Unless comedy is your shtick, then by all means. The only critique I can see is cleanliness. For me, the dirty work mat you used was distracting, otherwise, good job! BTW... I left you a comment on your Elgin railroad grade video about the Geneva Stopwork on the bottom of the Main spring barrel. 

[jdrichard]

Your videos are great you just need to burp a bit more:thumbsu:

Funny thanks. I’ll try to be more rude in the future.


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[jdrichard]

He is entertaining, but his technique is a little woolly. I pointed out he had failed to re-fit the bridge screws on a Sekonda pocket watch. The whole thing was hanging together with friction and luck.
He had even re-cased the movement, polished the case and declared the job done, with these three screws still sitting in the tray.
I guess the lesson here, is that if you post YouTube videos, all your mistakes are up there for all to criticise, whereas when I send the same spring flying three times, and screw up the keyless work twice in the process (as I did last night), nobody will ever know.... err.. apart from you guys of course, and you wouldn't tell any one, would you?

No I would not. I know you are out there with all mistakes, but you do get good advise.


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[jdrichard]

I've watched a couple of them. Not nearly the production quality of Mark's videos, but good nonetheless. Most viewers prefer sped up videos with voice over, because watch repair can be a bit tedious for the average, non-hobbyist. Myself, I don't mind detailed teardowns because I'm always looking for something new to learn.  In a previous comment, Graziano said you need more burping, please for the love of Father Time, don't do that! It's so annoying, distracting and unprofessional! Unless comedy is your shtick, then by all means. The only critique I can see is cleanliness. For me, the dirty work mat you used was distracting, otherwise, good job! BTW... I left you a comment on your Elgin railroad grade video about the Geneva Stopwork on the bottom of the Main spring barrel. 

Thanks for the advise and I will change out that mat right away. I really appreciated your comment on the stop-work and did a bunch of research on the design. Simple and brilliant. Ps thanks for watching my videos. I have gotten better over the years and I can see the difference from the initial videos. bTW I know my place and cannot compete with Mark as he is a pro. Thanks and se you later.


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[FLwatchguy73]

44 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

Thanks for the advise and I will change out that mat right away. I really appreciated your comment on the stop-work and did a bunch of research on the design. Simple and brilliant. Ps thanks for watching my videos. I have gotten better over the years and I can see the difference from the initial videos. bTW I know my place and cannot compete with Mark as he is a pro. Thanks and se you later.


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My pleasure. I believe, i found and subscribed to your channel long before I knew you were a member here, lol. Small world. Keep up the good work!

[jdrichard]

My pleasure. I believe, i found and subscribed to your channel long before I knew you were a member here, lol. Small world. Keep up the good work!

Hey thanks and stay safe. You can’t get Corona virus fixing watches.


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[Nucejoe]

10 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

Hey thanks and stay safe. You can’t get Corona virus fixing watches.


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The rate coronavirus is killing at, over here, we are affraid to get infected just talking about it, 524 dead in four days.. Lucky it is not as bad in your part of the globe or should I add yet.

 Quarentine yourselves in your place of residence. 

[jdrichard]

The rate coronavirus is killing at, over here, we are affraid to get infected just talking about it, 524 dead in four days.. Lucky it is not as bad in your part of the globe or should I add yet.
 Quarentine yourselves in your place of residence. 

Where do you live. I am in Canada


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[Nucejoe]

4 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

Where do you live. I am in Canada


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I am in Iran.  Despite all the help from Chinees and hands on immunologist, its going pandemic fast. Just take no risk. 

Just as bad or worse in italy. 

 

[jdrichard]

I am in Iran.  Despite all the help from Chinees and hands on immunologist, its going pandemic fast. Just take no risk. 
Just as bad or worse in italy. 
 

Good luck and stay safe.


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[Nucejoe]

16 hours ago, jdrichard said:

Good luck and stay safe.


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Ya will do, Coronavirus may rob me of the chance to enjoy my own OK CORAL.