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I thought I would add this as my first true achievement. I got the Audex running well but it's a movement only and we all know how hard cases are to source. I got a Smiths Empire pocket watch going but not keeping good time, I don't think it's worth the effort to go further. I have got several other movements to run. But this is my first one that I am proud of. Full service and keeping good time, don't have a timegrapher yet, my next purchase. Hands could do with a re-lume.

1970 Seiko 5606-7000 with hand made stamp dial. Running at 0 SPD and amplitude over 300 degrees at full wind.

I thought the Timex instructions were to wash it in lighter fluid and put it back in the case? But yeah, really tiny things are impossible to do with tweezers unless you are micro-man (a very tiny version of superman). I learned this with a stud screw for the hair spring on a HMT 0321 movement. I cleaned the movement as per normal but I noticed a really tiny "clump" of dirt in the bottom of the tank. I was about to wash it out but something was niggling at me that I should look a bit closer. Sure enough, there was a really tiny screw in that clump. Bugger. I had no idea where it was from. I thought some previous watchbreaker had dropped a random screw into the movement. I couldn't figure out where the screw was from. It was about 1/50 the size of any screw I had removed and everything was accounted for. It wasn't until I had the movement to first test stage that I noticed that the balance spring stud was rocking back and forth in the balance cock in time with the balance. Damn. Glad I saved that speck of dirt and put in the parts tray. Well, I could pick the minute screw up with the tweezers, and even place it in the hole it was supposed to go in. This thing was literally like a speck of dust and I'm still in shock a month later. Even though it was placed in roughly the right position, I just could not get a screwdriver on it. Every time I tried, it just fell out of the hole. Eventually it fell out and I couldn't find it. Damn I feel so inadequate. Later on I watched a video where the watchmacker put the screw in a pin vice (must have been a *really* tiny pin vice) and used that to start the thread on that screw. Damn. I don't have the tools, and I shake too much. Almost makes you rethink your life choices. Almost.

I don't think we need to go into the reason why do you. Lets keep politics out of this forum.

This unfortunately is a classic problem in watch repair the assumption that watch repair is easy. Mark is an expert at watch repair he's going to make everything look easy. Typically any time you see a YouTube video on watch repair nobody's going to want to look stupid they're going to make everything look easy and wonderful. The unfortunate reality of watch repair is you're going to break and destroy things. This is why in school situations they typically have practice movements and they spend lots and lots of time practicing on the same disposable movements. They don't jump in and start working on live patients after one watch. To be good at watch repair you have to practice a lot to be honest to be good at watch repair you have to practice continuously all of us are currently practicing were all getting better. Then I assume this is a practice watch is it not? You still need to practice putting the mainspring in you need to perfect her techniques so you can put it in without destroying it. Technically you have destroyed it but you can still practice with this it gets expensive if you have to keep buying new springs and destroying them so practice with this one until you get it in a perfecter technique and yes it probably will be an issue but the practice will be well worth it for the future.

ammonia, water rinse air\blow dry, lighter fluid, air\blow dry. basics developed my the former members of the Vintage Timex Watch Forum which I was a core member of. Good luck with your repair.

These are the instructions from the Tech manual. I see no mention of Naptha or lighter fluid.

Very interesting, thanks.

My take-away from this thread: replace the lume with red enamel. Damn that looks sic. I've got a few HMT watches here. One of them might end up looking like this.

Every Iranian fighter pilot of F-14 , F-4 and F-5 who bombed vietnam has a Brietling multicomplication pilot watch. There should be around 350 of such limited editions exclusively made for said pilots. I have seen one Wow, its absolutely gorgeous, I even got to wear it for a few seconds. Haha I don't know what watch did American pilots recieve. We know US airforce got F-14 when the fighting was over. I have heard a few of F-14 pilots flew commercial airlines in Canada. If your friend is wealthy and hunts one of these down, he might show off this gloreous piece on WRT.

That is good news. Have a go at a few more striking clock movements that way you will build up your confidence if possible a slightly different movement a German one would be a recommendation from me or a Smiths floating balance. Good luck, we are always here to help.

Yes excellent advice from “Watchmaker” & John caliburs develop over time so although they change there are always similarities.. Seiko caliburs being a good example. Over time with experience referring to service manuals only comes into play with a complication.

Usually in watch repair unless there's something special about it there probably isn't a technical manual the most you'll ever get is a parts list. Usually the watch companies feel anything that looks reasonably simple that a watchmaker should do it and doesn't need a step-by-step guide. Sometimes the watch companies might have a consolidated guide of several watches but usually they have to have complications of some sort. But it also depends upon the manufacture Then there are websites like this a online parts listing. If you're lucky they might even still have the part in it can be purchased. But if you're unlucky you can also click on the part numbers and anything get a list of all the watches that use that same part. Often times parts will be used in multiple of watches and he might do a fine those if you can't find your watch in other words if you need apart it really helps to know what cross references to. http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=TIS_791 Then next site is interesting it has pictures because often times people don't give us pictures of their watch. It's hard to help people with answers to questions if they don't get pictures you don't did give us pictures that was good. It also gives some technical knowledge like this is part of a much larger family. If there was a service manual but I doubt that there was one often times it would be the base caliber would be the manual your book for and somewhere that might be supplemental on may be. But this one is simple enough I doubt there was a service guide the most you'd ever get would be a parts list if You are lucky. http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Tissot_791

Chronographs have challenges and you really need to understand everything before you adjust anything. Because if you start adjusting things without understanding the consequences you will have problems. I have a parts list just in case you need parts don't know if the parts are available anymore chronograph parts tend to be a bit pricey just as chronograph movements can be really pricey Then there's a book a light reading we get you started ill notice there's quite a few things to adjust is a certain degree of cause and effect C do have to be careful what you adjust http://www.clubderelojeria.com/archivos/01LANDERON51.pdf Then if the watch hasn't been serviced in a long time that might be part of the problem also. But servicing a chronograph isn't recommended for somebody new to watch repair. ThenHas reminder for you and me because I would to save some time at I have done this originally always do a search on the group maybe someone is done something similar before like tracking down the service manual and a few words about adjusting things here. Then there are probably other discussions on how to adjust the adjustments you just want to be really careful not to make mistakes. There usually is a procedure that's why there is usually a technical manual but we get a book that's nice and detailed Landeron_Landeron 51 152.pdf

No not yet I think it came from the second Movement I had on my bench. I can't see any missing jewel holes My mainspring winder has arrived for the Seiko today so I'm going to wind my barrel tomorrow

Many thanks both, I've sussed it! I think you were telling me this, but it didn't register properly until the different sized lobes were mentioned - I simply took the minute hand off and repositioned it through 180 degrees. They are non-original hands that didn't come with the clock and I hadn't realised there was a right and wrong way to put the minute one on. Lesson learned! Your guidance has been really helpful - thanks again. John.

I believe its a K & D. Very few piece show excessive wear. OCD level 3 and still not finished:

Just won this little Tissot expected next week some time

I really wondered about which wheels you are talking! chrono minute runner - minute runner wheel - minute wheel ? There is a chronograph runner (seconds) and a minute recording runner (minutes). For understanding, better use the right terms. Frank