Hairspring Frustration

[nickelsilver]

No, that's not the reason. Seiko hairsprings are extremely easy to get distorted, and equally difficult to correct. read below:
 
 
 

Hmm, I understood that the distorted hairspring from the beginning of the thread was all good a few mins agao then all bunched together again still out of the watch.

[szbalogh]

The two gaps marked with red should be around the same. Since it is bent somewhere at the yellow marking the whole spring is pushed towards the green direction. 

 

Did you demagnetized the movement and the balance and cock assembly separated?

 

 

Edited August 1, 2018 by szbalogh

[szbalogh]

15 minutes ago, nickelsilver said:

Hmm, I understood that the distorted hairspring from the beginning of the thread was all good a few mins agao then all bunched together again still out of the watch.

No, i was not reading the thread before 

[jdm]

58 minutes ago, nickelsilver said:

Hmm, I understood that the distorted hairspring from the beginning of the thread was all good a few mins agao then all bunched together again still out of the watch.

Totally possible when you treat a Seiko HS like it was a sturdy one, with dangling, etc.
You need to work on some to see what I mean.

I've moved some cleaning postings to the correct thread.

[Pip]

46 minutes ago, szbalogh said:

The two gaps marked with red should be around the same. Since it is bent somewhere at the yellow marking the whole spring is pushed towards the green direction. 

Did you demagnetized the movement and the balance and cock assembly separated?

Both separately and together. Several times.

[Pip]

Thanks for all the support guys. I tried to follow as much advice as I had the competence to and cleaning it again has made a massive difference. I agitated it fairly carefully for a few minutes in IPA and helped it to dry carefully with my blower while it was flat. I did then dangle for a minute or two more to let final vapours evaporate (sorry@jdm I couldn’t resist!)

Looked much better even by eye and here is the result from a half wind after a few minutes adjusting and regulating.




Whilst I accept that’s not perfect I’ll take that; it’s a 20 year old cheap Seiko with a slightly distorted HS that didn’t work at all last week.

Again, thanks for all the advice and support guys.
Pip



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[clockboy]

In my experience Seiko's never seem to give a good amplitude. I would settle for the results you are now getting.

[jdm]

36 minutes ago, clockboy said:

In my experience Seiko's never seem to give a good amplitude. I would settle for the results you are now getting.

Not never, see below. It's true that they swing less than Swiss and one has to take what they give.