Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Hi Everyone!

I'm a mechanics enthusiast (studying engineering, actually), and watches always caught my attention. I came across an Omega 30T2 from my grandfather and managed to replace the balance staff with a second hand stacking set I could lay my hands on. In the process I looked up a few things on the internet and came across the forum, thank you all, it's ticking now!

 

Cheers

Posted

Welcome to this friendly forum. Re-placing a balance staff is not easy. Normally you would be well into your apprenticeship before you under take that task, certainly not with an Omega.  

Posted
3 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Welcome to this friendly forum. Re-placing a balance staff is not easy. Normally you would be well into your apprenticeship before you under take that task, certainly not with an Omega.  

Well, in this case the OP succeeded as a total beginner in getting, at least, the watch running. Although we can't know how good without a timegrapher picture.  

Posted

welcome to a very good watch forum.!  brovo!  on the shaft job and thanks to the net;  you found the modern version od "tech. manuals".  an engeering degree would be good also.  i do not use a "timegrapher [ I junked one,  it had 12 tubes (valves)].   i use a stethosope.    vin

Posted

SHello guys! Some updates from a full Omega saturday afternoon. I started checking the regulator pins as I asked in the other post. In the second attempt I got them where I think is better, the coil bounces but with little clearence. Then I started timing it. No timegrapher so I had to improvise: I tried an stethoscope Vin, but the one I had (asked my mother actually) didn't pick it up.

So I got the open source TG 0.5.0 running on my computer. My cheap mic wouldn't get it either, so I came with a "tech" solution: recording a voice message on my phone, with the mic close enough, and getting the audio file to the computer, then streaming it to the in-line as it were the mic. It started measuring. Quite a job, since I had to suspend the computer to record every time (over a minute each), to avoid any kind of noise, but at least I was getting some numbers. First ones: Not good. I was +200 sec/day. Moving the regulator from end to end got it from +150 to over +300. So I started checking again. Using more geeky stuff, slow mo vid, I saw the balance wheel getting barely 180 degrees from side to side. When I loosened the arm it clearly gained angle.

So I took it off again to find some markings on the plate where the arm sits, which were pointing it down (marks on the outside-side of the screw). Carefully removed them, cleaned the debris, and added just a micro drop of synthetic oil on the lower pivot jewel, just in case. As soon as I winded it up, it kicked to life getting some nice 300 degrees (slowmo vid uploading). Timing again: -200 sec/day. Well, at least I got to the minus side. The regulator was full on slow since it was running fast before. Moved it arround. +160. Getting there! After four or five more fine adjustments, I got close enough to zero. Take into account the measuring must not be the most accurate one, for sure. I'm planning on building an electronic one with a microcontroller, when I get some free time, and see what it comes out. Being an enthusiast and a begginer at the same time, I'm quite pleased with what I achieved today. I'll keep an eye on the timing of course, on the following days. As to the watch, it was at my father's, non working for years, so I got curious.

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcoming and replies!

Cheers

 

timing.thumb.jpg.f82abbea919f86b495891d504c01cf64.jpg

This sample ranged from +7 to +2. Again it's probably not the most accurate, we'll see after a couple of days.

The analized sample and the slowmo. If you'd like to see the video, the easy way probably would be to download it from the forum. The audio should play fine (at least it does on the preview).

  • Like 1
Posted

A little update: After 6 and a half hours, side by side with my phone's cronograph, it's good by the second. So far so good. Why only six hours? Well, last night was odd since I had to pick up someone from the airport at 4 am, so I slept quite off schedule and forgot to rewind it. When I got up again it had stopped, therefore losing my reference from yesterday. I'm keeping track of it from now on!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I'm a newb who is a bit late to the party here. I've purchased a Horia movement holder clone. And I'm aware that the support pins for the SW500 chronograph jewels can be different sizes. I purchased 0.8mm pins with the holder. These were all that were available at the time. Will these be the right size? Can someone shed a little light on this for me please?
    • That looks fantastic! I'm obviously a little late to the party here. Can you tell me where you sourced the case that you used in this build?
    • If pivot shoulder almost touches the mainplate, you will see lower amplitude and free oscilation comes to stop quicker. Such touching can stop the watch. This caliber is based on FHF, I think. So some parts of a cheaper movement of same caliber might interchange.  Both observation point to pivot worn short, which support you suspect , "worn pivot".  The problem with pivots wear to this point is , though the watch runs, pivots can easily jump out of jewel holes in the event of shock, pivots are actually not touching the end stones.   Classic watch repair recommends staff replacement or elongating pivots. Non classic let's you flip the end stones to have the dome side of end stone facing the pivot end, this will somewhat or wholly  compensate for the wear.  Regs  
    • This watch has a pin end mainspring. It's a blued steel spring and may be the original >100 year old part. As you can see, it is quite set. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to obtain such a spring today? Dimensions: Height: 140 Thickness: 010 Arbor diameter: 340 Barrel diameter 989 (1/100 mm)  
    • Many thanks for your answers: 1. I will clean both of them without risk 🙂 2. Both of the rotate inside their setting but they don't seem to come out. I will clean the cock (and the hole jewels) and I will see if they want to go out. I don't intend to force the setting pushing it out by any means. I only hope I don't need the dismantle the whole cock into all its components...! 3. I won't touch it. Only clean. I don't want to take risk... Thanks again! Thanks for your anwer. Yes, I meant short. In fact there are 2 pictures where It can be seen that the balance almost touch the main plate. The balance only spin freely when I loosen the cock screw and also the bottom jewel setting. I cleaned the exterior jewels on the cock and on the main plate. But I can't take the interior settings. I uploaded 1 picture on this  My reply to your comments are below. Apologies as I Replied rather than quote... 
×
×
  • Create New...