What is wrong with this.

[oldhippy]

Have a look and tell me two things that are wrong. You could win a peanut.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Superb-Antique-French-8-Day-Bronze-Carriage-Mantel-Clock-C1860-Platform-Balance/112999869563?hash=item1a4f512c7b:g:0NYAAOSwY5Ra~d3H

 

[Chopin]

No peanut for me... Then again I know NOTHING about clocks...

[frenchie]

wild guesses: the top isn't closed properly, the hands are mismatched, the balance looks modern, no country of origin visible (or brand or any markings for that matter)....

I have beer at home, do I get a peanut????

[Murt]

Haven’t a clue, but can I guess. It looks too good for something over 100 years old and I wouldn’t like the red numerals. [emoji16]


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[rogart63]

Looks repainted? Red numbers? Fake? 

[wls1971]

The clock is much later than the 1860 Stated by the seller, it has a modern replacement escapement, the top of the clock although the correct style is not original to the clock it is a different colour to the rest of the clock, the case may be bronze but the top is brass.

The movement is modern the hands would not be push fit for a old clock they would be held by a hand collet and pin on a period clock

Its a bit of a marriage of parts looking at it. 

[oldhippy]

wls1971. You have the two right answers. Replacement platform. The whole case is in fact brass and not bronze. Peanut goes to you.

 

You are wrong about the date. The movement is around1860. The push on hands are correct and are matching, the style is spade.   

 

A big thanks to all for taking part. Next time I will have to make it harder.

[Chopin]

Bump up the "prize" as well.

We don't play for freaking peanuts... We're not rats!

[wls1971]

I was more wrong than right, how would you know if a case is bronze as opposed to brass what would be the tell tale signs of a bronze case ? I am currently reading carriage clocks by Charles Allix and Peter Bonnert I shall have to study some more I have a lot to learn.

[oldhippy]

51 minutes ago, wls1971 said:

I was more wrong than right, how would you know if a case is bronze as opposed to brass what would be the tell tale signs of a bronze case ? I am currently reading carriage clocks by Charles Allix and Peter Bonnert I shall have to study some more I have a lot to learn.

A picture would be the colour. If you had it to handle it would be the weight. Solid  bronze would be much heavier.  

English Giant c/clocks that have the case made of bronze are a hell of a weight. I used to wonder why are they called c/clocks its because of their style. A petite lady would have trouble lifting one.  

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, Chopin said:

Bump up the "prize" as well.

We don't play for freaking peanuts... We're not rats!

Would a packet be better?

[Chopin]

It's a start... I like the oiled salted ones.

[omx5o]

You can learn a lot from these quizzes.

I was going to say that the key was missing. Not a major problem though.

 

[oldhippy]

12 minutes ago, omx5o said:

You can learn a lot from these quizzes.

I was going to say that the key was missing. Not a major problem though.

 

I am glad you enjoy them. The key is an important item. Very valuable clocks that have their original key can add to their price. While we are still on the subject of C/Clocks the original travel case can also add to their value, so can the original glass panels.

Any part of a clock that needs to be replaced should be catalogued for the customer,  the old piece handed back. It is also a good idea to tell the owner to keep the old parts with the clock.   

[clockboy]

Got me. However I did notice the hairspring seems to be sitting out of centre so I doubt if it is running that well.

[oldhippy]

32 minutes ago, clockboy said:

Got me. However I did notice the hairspring seems to be sitting out of centre so I doubt if it is running that well.

I thought it looked pretty sick when you consider it’s a new platform.