Identification Of A Vostok Watch

[manjo]

Hello together
I have received a Vostok watch. However, it works with catastrophic values. Can anyone tell me what kind of movement it is? Unfortunately there is nothing engraved on the movement. Could be a 2424 or 2414, are there any differences? Can anyone give me more information?
Thanks a lot

[Nucejoe]

Vostok 2414. 

So far as I know the date complication makes it 2414.  

[mikepilk]

Looks just like the 2414 I have. They run pretty well once cleaned and oiled.

The movement looks in good condition, what's wrong with it? Do you have timegrapher plots?

They usually have a shim under the balance cock. It looks like yours may be too far out, so check the balance end-shake.

[Nucejoe]

4 hours ago, manjo said:

 it works with catastrophic values. 

Can we see them  catastrophic values

[manjo]

Hello,

Thank you for your replies. I will show you the plots of the timegraphes tonight. I worked on eta 2824,6498, eta 7750 and nh35. Never worked on a russian movement. I need to check some YT videos.

 

[manjo]

dial down and dial up

[Neverenoughwatches]

6 minutes ago, manjo said:

dial down and dial up

Would that be fully wound ? Russian watches are renowned for sloppy tolerances. The barrel can suffer from wear inside and arbor seats. You haven't mentioned servicing as yet and the low amplitude might not be providing accurate readings. When you get to servicing, pay particular attention to the condition of the barrel components, wear around the plate and barrel bridge is common, look for scuffing of the plating where brass shows through. Strip it down in readiness for service and post up some clear detailed pictures .

[mikepilk]

Have you checked the balance end shake? That shim looks too far out. You may not have enough end shake which is causing lack of amplitude.

[Neverenoughwatches]

On 1/16/2024 at 6:08 PM, mikepilk said:

Have you checked the balance end shake? That shim looks too far out. You may not have enough end shake which is causing lack of amplitude.

Well spotted mike, the jewel end of the cock could be tipped down or the cock might be loose altogether 

[HectorLooi]

On 1/11/2024 at 5:10 PM, manjo said:

I have received a Vostok watch.

Do you mean you bought it brand new or is it a used watch?

Are the TG results before or after servicing it?

[manjo]

On 1/16/2024 at 7:08 PM, mikepilk said:

Have you checked the balance end shake? That shim looks too far out. You may not have enough end shake which is causing lack of amplitude.

This clock is about 30 years old. It belongs to a work mate of mine. He asked me if I could do something about it because it stops after about 8 hours without being wound. I told him I had to find out more because I don't know these movements and can't guarantee anything. He confirmed that I could "practice" on this watch.

I will disassemble the watch slowly and carefully at the weekend and post pictures here, if that is desired. I am of course grateful for any tips. 

Unfortunately, I can't find any spare parts for the caliber 2424 online.

Is there a caliber that shares the same components? (For example 2414A)?
 

[mikepilk]

You don't need to disassemble it to check the balance end shake. Just grab the edge of the balance gently with some tweezers and try to move it up and down. There should be a little free movement.

[Endeavor]

The watch has, as people mentioned before, a Vostok 2414 movement. If it has never been serviced, it for sure needs one. If needed, the world is awash with cheap 2414 parts & whole 2414 movements. Even though it is said, but not all the parts are interchangeable. The watch you are having is from the transition period (just after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but before "Russia") and the movement, with a gold-colored balance wheel and gold-colored anti-shock spring, is from the Soviet period.

The lift-angle of these movements is 42 degrees.

[VWatchie]

@manjo You may find my service walkthrough of the Vostok 2409 useful. The 2409 is identical to the 2414 but lacks the date complication. However, in the same thread, I've added a post that shows how to assemble the date complication as well.

Good luck! 

[manjo]

43 minutes ago, Endeavor said:

The watch has, as people mentioned before, a Vostok 2414 movement. If it has never been serviced, it for sure needs one. If needed, the world is awash with cheap 2414 parts & whole 2414 movements. Even though it is said, but not all the parts are interchangeable. The watch you are having is from the transition period (just after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but before "Russia") and the movement, with a gold-colored balance wheel and gold-colored anti-shock spring, is from the Soviet period.

The lift-angle of these movements is 42 degrees.

Thank you for your input. I appreciate that