Seiko Quartz, japan 2320A 0180P

[ottarno]

Hello  again.

New problem. Open for change of battery my wifes watch and found silverpaper to keep battery in contact.Something is missing round or over battery so it stay stabile without cover.

Can someone see whats missing. Seem to be a silverhousing. Somebody have taken a shortcut, when changing battery ? 

[jdm]

10 hours ago, ottarno said:

Somebody have taken a shortcut, when changing battery ?

On some cheap quartz mov.t the battery method is/was poor from the factory. So people fits whatever they have handy as a remedy.

[JohnR725]

11 hours ago, ottarno said:

Somebody have taken a shortcut, when changing battery ? 

One of the unfortunate problems is that changing batteries in a watch is a fast way to make money perhaps?  There are all kinds of people out there changing batteries jewelry stores do it places that specialize in just selling batteries they'll change the battery in your watch. They demonstrate that no skill or knowledge is required pop the back Push the battery in your good to go.

But it does demonstrate a problem getting a really cheap battery change may not be in your best option although? The problem is you don't have a transparent back see you can't tell if anyone did a good job or not.

We really need a better picture that's too dark I suppose you think I'm a take your picture and doing enhancement just to try to figure out what's wrong?

1 hour ago, jdm said:

On some cheap quartz mov.t the battery method is/was poor from the factory.

Oh and then of course there is that problem. Even if the movement sought cheap there's all kinds of clever methods to hold the battery in and unsuspecting people it don't pay attention get surprises. Like the strap lot at times has an arrow to tell you which way to take it off take it off the other way you lose the screw or there's other things that are clever techniques that are supposed to hold the battery and butter of pain in the ass to deal with

I've attached the service bulletin.

I've also snipped out some images I had to enhance your photo and snipped out something from the technical bulletin. Then I'm going to have to look at a crystal ball and use my imagination and made a wild speculation of what I'm seeing until we get a better picture.

It looks like the negative contacts been twisted but at least it's still there.

The positive contact that's interesting? I circled something it almost looks like a little a bit of aluminum foil?

Then you notice the part I quoted from jdm?  The screw that has what looks like aluminum foil is supposed to have a gold colored piece which is the positive contact. It's not a wonderful contacted kinda just provides a sideways pressure in the case back should hold the battery in place providing somebody puts the right battery size in. So someone's not careful conceivably they could break that off it something you normally wouldn't have to do much with but people can be creative so it looks like in your enhanced photo it's missing and aluminum foil is in its place. At least until we get a much better picture of the situation

Seiko 2320A-1.pdf

[jdm]

1 hour ago, JohnR725 said:

It's not a wonderful contacted kinda just provides a sideways pressure in the case back should hold the battery in place providing somebody puts the right battery size in.

Correct. Seiko (I wrote cheap just to say "not best in class") has not changed this method since decades, as a result a mov.t ring with a tab holding the battery would be needed, but if isn't there since the beginning it will not magically appear.

A relative in our family placed any sticky tape he could find on the battery, these didn't really held much and left goo everywhere, but he was a very very simple person that loved watches with passion and did what he could with his non-existent means to keep them working.

[ottarno]

Hello JDM and JohnR725.

Put the seiko under microscope again, and took off screw of +pol, it was silverpaper under, means that part no 10 in drawing is missing, the part that press the   batteri + side  sideway and keep it stabil. Will try to find  the part if none of you know where to find.

Here is picture after demount silverpaper. There is nothing else to contact + pole. The battery is right size.

Will also try to take out crown a chech and change rubber-ring, the back part ring seems to be ok.

Have not very much experience of taking out crown here, any good idea?

[watchweasol]

Hi the battery retaining clip,  Posative is listed with Jules Borel as Obsolete as are parts at cousins uk, although ccousins do supply an assortment of battry clamps etc one on which you may be able to modif. Thee alternative is to make one using thin brass/coppersheet

HATTORY-SEIKO-2320A.pdf