Purchased a Seitz tool, didn't realize it was missing a part

[GregG]

I want to try setting my own jewels, so I purchased a Seitz tool.  I only realized after receiving it that it was missing a part.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7cMAAOSwavZe2xLK/s-l1600.jpg

Is my research correct in that the metal plunger tube thing with the rounded top that the lever presses against is called the "spindle"?

If so, where can I source a new one of these?  I was able to find someone selling a spindle, but I don't know if these come in different shapes and sizes.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e-gAAOSwuZNhH8PV/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JmQAAOSwJethH8Pk/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NJEAAOSwxmxhH8PL/s-l1600.jpg

I know it'll need a spring as well, but do you think this would be a compatible replacement for my tool?  If you are uncertain, what should I check on my tool, and what questions should I ask the seller to be sure?

Edited December 16, 2021 by GregG

[oldhippy]

You might find this helpful

https://ihc185.infopop.cc/helphand/pdf/seitz.pdf

 

Also there is this one which is complete on ebay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274880919020?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338353466&toolid=20006%26customid%3Ds%3AGS%3Bgc%3ACj0KCQiA5OuNBhCRARIsACgaiqWAGcGLPT9XGEaTQ-69CerxXE71RCt0oLkrtm6B-zH6RdPRbm16UoAaAgPjEALw_wcB%3Bpt%3A1%3Bchoc%3A2&customid=s%3AGS%3Bgc%3ACj0KCQiA5OuNBhCRARIsACgaiqWAGcGLPT9XGEaTQ-69CerxXE71RCt0oLkrtm6B-zH6RdPRbm16UoAaAgPjEALw_wcB%3Bpt%3A1%3Bchoc%3A1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5OuNBhCRARIsACgaiqWAGcGLPT9XGEaTQ-69CerxXE71RCt0oLkrtm6B-zH6RdPRbm16UoAaAgPjEALw_wcB

[nickelsilver]

You did lift the pusher tray out and check the hole for storing the spindle through its side?

[xyzzy]

Isn't the hole in the side of the tray only for the spindle for the reaming tool? The mushroom head of the pusher spindle would not fit in there.

I think there are two types of spindle for the pushers.  The newer style has a removable head and can be used with a micrometer attachment.  That tool looks like an old one and would use the once piece spindle, like the spindle in your pictures.  I think both kinds of spindles are the same size anyway, and both use 4mm pushers, and are probably compatible.

[rodabod]

It appears cousins have stopped selling the spare spindles. 
 

If your set doesn’t have any pushers then you may still be cheaper buying a complete set rather than furnishing your current set. 

[nickelsilver]

46 minutes ago, xyzzy said:

Isn't the hole in the side of the tray only for the spindle for the reaming tool? The mushroom head of the pusher spindle would not fit in there.

 

Ah yes, that's right.

 

The spindles are 8mm diameter, same as Favorite, Chatons SA, and Horia. Horia is still going and sells the spindles individually; they have both keyed and non-keyed (they call it "furrow"), the Seitz takes a keyed spindle but will work with non-keyed, just back out the locating screw. Horia has the spring too. You have to specify 3mm or 4mm hole, and they have 3 lengths; Seitz is 76mm total length, their longest is 74mm, which should work fine.

 

https://www.horia.ch/Scripts/Modules/CustomView/List.aspx?idn=9747&name=ShopCategory&pg=2

Edited December 16, 2021 by nickelsilver

[GregG]

Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses. I'm glad to hear that the spindle on ebay could be a suitable replacement.  Since the holidays are coming up, I won't be starting any new projects till after the new year, so I'll try my luck on getting the spindle for cheap on ebay.

[Plato]

On 12/16/2021 at 11:24 AM, xyzzy said:

Isn't the hole in the side of the tray only for the spindle for the reaming tool?

I think the kit @GregG bought only came with reamers to it might be pointless getting the pusher spindle anyway.

[Darthkram]

I encountered an identical issue a couple months back.

I emailed Dave from Dave's Watch Parts and he had at least one spare but from his response sounded like more than one, cost $20 plus shipping if I remember correctly.

I'd give him a try if I were you.