Rotary Elite GS00959

[Hungryhedgehog]

Afternoon,

I have a Rotary Elite GS00959 which has a reversable movement.  In effect, two movements back to back.  I decided to do the battery change myself as I do all my others and the guy that used to do it has retired.  He did talk me through the process but now I can't recall the first step.

One of the stems needs to be remived but I can't recall which or how.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Clive

[clockboy]

We need a pic of the movement/s to advise.

[Hungryhedgehog]

26 minutes ago, clockboy said:

We need a pic of the movement/s to advise.

Therein lies the problem. I can’t get into the movement as one of the spigots needs to be removed to do so and I don’t know which or how. 

[watchweasol]

Hi  I have done a little digging around not having handled one of these before and on one forum it was recommended that you remove the smaller of the two to gain access. I shall continue to look and will post any other information I find.       Can you remove the watch head from the strap and post picture of both winders.   cheers

 

[Hungryhedgehog]

21 hours ago, watchweasol said:

Hi  I have done a little digging around not having handled one of these before and on one forum it was recommended that you remove the smaller of the two to gain access. I shall continue to look and will post any other information I find.       Can you remove the watch head from the strap and post picture of both winders.   cheers

 

Thanks for your help. Do these pictures assist?

[watchweasol]

By the look of the pictures you have to split the bezel from the case, from what I cam make out one side has to be removed to gain access to the other movement, I think its the white dial side once removed you somehow gain access to the stem release to be able to lift out the movement.  I think the movements will either be ETA or Miyota as rotary used both. The higher end watches used the ETA. So my conclusion is to remove the bezel (white dial) and proceed from there. but be careful in every way

[Hungryhedgehog]

On 11/19/2021 at 3:13 PM, watchweasol said:

By the look of the pictures you have to split the bezel from the case, from what I cam make out one side has to be removed to gain access to the other movement, I think its the white dial side once removed you somehow gain access to the stem release to be able to lift out the movement.  I think the movements will either be ETA or Miyota as rotary used both. The higher end watches used the ETA. So my conclusion is to remove the bezel (white dial) and proceed from there. but be careful in every way

Thanks for your thoughts. Really appreciate it.
 If I try and remove the bezel, won’t the movement come with it?  Nervous that I’ll damage the stem. I might have another careful look at the weekend. 
 

I saw one watch where you pop out the stem but definitely don’t want to try that!!!

[watchweasol]

If it is a true front loader the split stem should pull out as its in two parts and then the bezel spilts off the case allowing you to move the movement out with the inner part of the stem attached to the watch. Once out you can then remove the second half of the stem .  You will have to carefully explore the bezel rim for an indent or marks from a previous repair or battery change.

[jdm]

36 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

If it is a true front loader the split stem should pull out as its in two parts

A split stem would pull out as it's designed for that, however is worth to remember that a zero force method is often possible and preferable, while slowly rotating the crown, gently lift the edge of the dial nearest to the stem. When the joint is vertical, wiggle the mov.t a bit more and it should come up. Doing this reverse is even more important when refitting a split stem, as the joint will break if  pressure if given when not perfectly aligned.

[Hungryhedgehog]

On 11/25/2021 at 8:34 PM, watchweasol said:

If it is a true front loader the split stem should pull out as its in two parts and then the bezel spilts off the case allowing you to move the movement out with the inner part of the stem attached to the watch. Once out you can then remove the second half of the stem .  You will have to carefully explore the bezel rim for an indent or marks from a previous repair or battery change.

I can definitely see the marks. The problem is they are on both bezels!

[Hungryhedgehog]

On 11/25/2021 at 9:17 PM, jdm said:

A split stem would pull out as it's designed for that, however is worth to remember that a zero force method is often possible and preferable, while slowly rotating the crown, gently lift the edge of the dial nearest to the stem. When the joint is vertical, wiggle the mov.t a bit more and it should come up. Doing this reverse is even more important when refitting a split stem, as the joint will break if  pressure if given when not perfectly aligned.

Thanks for that. To be honest, I’m completely scared now do I’m going to try and find a professional.

 

Thanks everyone for your advice. 

[watchweasol]

Hi Probably the sensible thing to do if you dont feel confident enough to do it your self. There is no point in hacking up a good watch, hope you are sucessfull in finding a repair.        Cheers