seiko repairement

[Corstjens1]

Got a opportunity to buy a seiko lot, but don't know if it is worth to repair them all considiring the profit. Could anybody give me an estimate of what it would cost to let these be serviced. I already found some new dials for the watches so that's sorted for around 200-400 bucks. 

[Nucejoe]

How about removing the back plates to see if all parts are there,    any of them runs?   and check their oscilators, complications.

Repair costs depends on who and where the repairman is.

Did you find genuine dials?

 

[watchweasol]

One can only reiterate Joes comments, open the backs and have a look anything else is guess work.

[Corstjens1]

the replacement dials that i have found are from a reputable source and almost every movement has an issue (mostly chronographs not working), so they do need the be fixed and checked. Could you give an estimate about the amount tho ? 

[JohnR725]

 

3 minutes ago, Corstjens1 said:

the replacement dials that i have found are from a reputable source and almost every movement has an issue (mostly chronographs not working), so they do need the be fixed and checked. Could you give an estimate about the amount tho ? 

 

what makes you think you need replacement dials? Looking at the photograph it's hard to tell because the crystals look like they're scratched up so you may just have scratched crystals which need to be replaced the dials may be fine.

Then you want an estimate no problem $10,000 per watch.

As others said above an estimate can't be done unless somebody looks at the watch perhaps? One of the things troubling as it looks like one of the watches is missing its little chronograph hands? The problem with that is watches are sealed units these are in nice metal sealed cases the customer or the owner can't typically get in there if the hands are missing that means somebody's been in these watches. That means they're probably here because they can't be fixed. Nobody can give you an estimate until they see the watch and they go through and see why it doesn't work and is see what's missing in broken. Then there is the problem of its eight Seiko chronograph some of the interim wheels wear out and don't function and I don't think there's any replacement..

on the other hand you could just go to your favorite search engine and type in Seiko chronograph repair may be to get a link like the one below. Then it looks like you can enter in the caliber number and I'll tell you what the actual cost will be to get it fixed looks like based on the website my price of $10,000 is a little on the high side. But I've been achieved at price the quotes will not be the price if these watches have been played with by anyone else.

https://www.seikoserviceusa.com/pages/serviceprice/

 

[Corstjens1]

2 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

 

 

what makes you think you need replacement dials? Looking at the photograph it's hard to tell because the crystals look like they're scratched up so you may just have scratched crystals which need to be replaced the dials may be fine.

Then you want an estimate no problem $10,000 per watch.

As others said above an estimate can't be done unless somebody looks at the watch perhaps? One of the things troubling as it looks like one of the watches is missing its little chronograph hands? The problem with that is watches are sealed units these are in nice metal sealed cases the customer or the owner can't typically get in there if the hands are missing that means somebody's been in these watches. That means they're probably here because they can't be fixed. Nobody can give you an estimate until they see the watch and they go through and see why it doesn't work and is see what's missing in broken. Then there is the problem of its eight Seiko chronograph some of the interim wheels wear out and don't function and I don't think there's any replacement..

on the other hand you could just go to your favorite search engine and type in Seiko chronograph repair may be to get a link like the one below. Then it looks like you can enter in the caliber number and I'll tell you what the actual cost will be to get it fixed looks like based on the website my price of $10,000 is a little on the high side. But I've been achieved at price the quotes will not be the price if these watches have been played with by anyone else.

https://www.seikoserviceusa.com/pages/serviceprice/

 

Thanks a lot for the perspective. Really makes things clear, and the dials i've seen them and they are scratched or indeed missing the hands of the chronograph or the regular hands. Really need to think this through as it is a rather large investment 

[JohnR725]

18 minutes ago, Corstjens1 said:

Really makes things clear, and the dials i've seen them and they are scratched or indeed missing the hands of the chronograph or the regular hands.

one of the things that happens with watches are people think they can buy them fix them up and sell them and make money. Can it be done definitely I a people that do that but it relies on a bunch of stuff. Purchasing a watch inexpensive be able to fix it relatively inexpensive and then selling making money.

You look at these watches why is somebody selling them? Like for instance the watch with the brownish style on the very top left which it at cell 44 was running may be around $800 perhaps on eBay? That would pay for half the lot but if the chronograph is broken or screwed. Getting chronograph parts is very difficult. You might end up Caleb wising some of the other watches just to get that one fixed. If you throw in one of those dials at although with your cheapest price $200 and the repair for several hundred assuming it needed no parts probably a new crystal and you're very rapidly approaching the cost of just buying the watch off of eBay.

What you may be seeing here is somebody who's already done the math they looked at the situation watches of already been played with which makes things even worse maybe the movements run but the chronographs are all shot and they did the math if you trying to buy these to sell these they can't be done. The one of via prefix sum up for yourself a don't care then it probably be okay.

But I tend to have an apprehension off of a lot of stuff on eBay. It's not like you can physically see it hold your hand and verify it. And even if you can a lot of times the sellers really don't care. They bought it thinking they could do exactly what you're doing they found they couldn't and now they're dumping it at the best price they can get to get the money out of it. So conceivably you could be buying someone else's problems on the hope that you know something they don't and make some money.

One of the things sad about Seiko watches are were arriving late to the scene? Seiko watches are becoming very collectible now where is at one time they were very uncollectible the uncollectible time would've been a great time to buy them unfortunately people are grasping that their valuable.

 

[jdm]

2 hours ago, Corstjens1 said:

.Could anybody give me an estimate of what it would cost to let these be serviced.

If done by a reputable watchmaker within a reasonable timeframe $200 each to do all would be a very good price. That before any part needed. Although he could take from each other leaving lacking only the one of lesser value. 

In all cases be prepared to astronomical estimates, others that won't work on Seiko, and months of waiting time. 

[Nucejoe]

  I have a few in my collection and am not sure if these movements are chrono grade dispite chrono complication on them.

In case you haven't got a jax tool to remove the back plates, this is the time to get one, it will pay for itself.

I know of many members who joined this forum with zero experience / knowlege and learned to repair such watches in year or two.

There are walkthrough, Mark's lessons and plenty of help and advice here, so why not aim to learn and repair em yourself.

 

 

 

[jdm]

36 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

 I have a few in my collection and am not sure if these movements are chrono grade dispite chrono complication on them.

Normally by 'chrono' watch enthousiasts mean cronograph, of course a (certified) chronometer grade movement is a very different thing. 

Seiko made and still makes the latter for the Grand Seiko brand, if present that is always indicated on the dial.

I don't think Seiko ever made watches that are both a cronograph and jave chronometer grade, that is kind of uncommon for Swiss makers also. 

[Nucejoe]

8 minutes ago, jdm said:

Normally by 'chrono' watch enthousiasts mean cronograph, of course a (certified) chronometer grade movement is a very different thing. 

Seiko made and still makes the latter for the Grand Seiko brand,  if present that is always indicated on the dial.

I don't think Seiko ever made watches that are both a cronograph with chronometer grade, that is  kind of uncommon for Swiss makers also. 

Many thanks  jdm, I simply didn't know.

I have a king Seiko which says officially certified chronometer, have grown fund of king seiko's  not too expensive yet good wathces.

[Corstjens1]

was thinking of maybe learning it, have found some pdf files of the movement and would be a great life project to thinker with them and remake them, but then again i wound if it's to difficult to even try. 

[Corstjens1]

I also asked for a picture of the movement to know in what kind of condition the watches are in a good condition and not rusted or water damaged. I loved to keep that bullhead to myself, or the panda if I could repair them myself. 

[JohnR725]

7 hours ago, Corstjens1 said:

I loved to keep that bullhead to myself,

if you wanted just this watch why don't you just buy one? in other words by the time you rebuild the watch that you want to get you could just buy one of these running for I think a little over $700. By the time you invest all this time and effort into trying to restore the rest of them or just by this watch and be done with it?

11 hours ago, jdm said:

If done by a reputable watchmaker within a reasonable timeframe $200 each to do all would be a very good price.

yes that really would be a good price very good price.

one of the problems with watch repair pricing is it depends on where you're located. For instance Seattle is not exactly a cheap place I know of a shop that operates out of mall. Their lowest price to service a watch I think is around $300 and a Seiko chronograph I'd have to go and ask but I bet you easily $500. so in order to get $200 you're going to have to have a watchmaker not in a mall not an expensive city and I think that is really a good price. But if you can find a wholesale watchmaker in an inexpensive city then maybe it is $200 it seems a little low.

Then just to help out with chronograph servicing I'm attaching the PDFs.

 

6138A.pdf 6138B.pdf 6139A.pdf 6139B.pdf

[Corstjens1]

thanks a lot! i have already found a number of youtube video's aswell so i think it will give it a shot to start my watch repairing journey with these 6 bad boys. The bullhead will definitly stay in my collection when i fix it. It's just to beautiful and historic to sell