Jump to content

Trenton Pocket Watch - Mystery


Recommended Posts

Just received a Trenton Pocket Watch. There are a few teeth missing in the winding mechanism that I need to address. Question is, how old is this watch. The old watch chain had a Virgin Mary Fob that says 1830. I have included a picture of the plate with the Serial Number.3a8e407d941250a320599197334aa3c1.jpg87d8cb88e9473057676bf6c71fabea21.jpgb4e4ac6d42cc8a1d42e939fe21cff789.jpg12df08cec43ba087ec59cc1676e0fbf5.jpg4a3295b6d47a0c7e53ed56ccdd0f9fda.jpgb5cbdbb42ad61f1b43cba117cec7953e.jpg64ed2721f25f5926c0f2c46834d0d1bc.jpg5c8f7870b19ccc334aab6e64175fd535.jpg31d1372a313947dc37751790809e4bc7.jpg

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...
  • 3 years later...

Hello, I know this is an old thread but I have the same movement on my bench right now. First PW movement for me and there are a couple of things I'm not sure about... 1) How do you deal with the balance jewels, can they be pushed out with a cheap jewel pusher or do I need a Seitz type tool? 2) On re-assembly how do you deal with the pallet fork, it seems like it needs to be captured in the balance jewel frame somehow? Thank you!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Both balance jewles appear to be pressed in from the same direction.  The jewel in the balance cock looks to be set in place by that flower pattern around it.  The opposite jewel would not need as much retention because there is nothing that can push it out except for it's own inertia.  Proced cautiously, looks can be deceiving.  The other jewles all look to be rubbed in place.

Not sure about your second question.  I have assembled movements in the same orientation as in your photos.

Best of luck.

Shane 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: the second question... the first photos may be confusing, that is showing the top plate not the mainplate.  The whole train came up stuck to the top plate by old oil... obviously on reassembly all that stuff will get set onto the mainplate.  It's the pallet fork being captured within that little lower balance jewel cock on the top plate that has me asking questions.  The solution may become obvious when it comes time to reassemble,  but I'm not at that stage yet. I'm probably not explaining it very well

4 JD7.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, IDunno52 said:

reassembly all that stuff will get set onto the mainplate. 

No.  I reassemble it all as illustrated, then put the mainplate over it all, line up the pivots and CAREFULLY turn it all over and put in some screws.  It's a good thing your pallet fork  didn't get stuck in the mainplate, that's how most of them get their pivots broken that get broken during disassembly.

Good luck.

Shane 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Shane said:

No.  I reassemble it all as illustrated, then put the mainplate over it all, line up the pivots and CAREFULLY turn it all over and put in some screws.  It's a good thing your pallet fork  didn't get stuck in the mainplate, that's how most of them get their pivots broken that get broken during disassembly.

Good luck.

Shane 

Wow, that's just crazy enough to work.  You've answered my question and probably saved me some grief and broken parts. Much appreciated!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The cannon pinion (be it conventional style or what you see in this movement) should slip on its arbour so the hands can be set independently without affecting the gear train.  If there is too much friction between the cannon pinion and the second wheel, turning the hands to set them backwards can sometimes force the escape wheel teeth to overrun the pallet stones, creating the behaviour you describe. The train is running in reverse when this happens.  This can often chip the pallet stones. I’d say at least half of the watches I’ve inspected with very tight cannon pinions had chipped pallet stones. Hopefully this isn’t the case with your watch.  I’m not familiar with this movement but you need to get the friction in the cannon pinion adjusted correctly.  Hope this helps, Mark
    • Pallet fork was in. I’d had the movement running ok, and only removed the balance to flip it over and install the keyless works and date mechanism. The pallet fork wasn’t locking the gear train when hand setting - it was oscillating as the escape wheel rotated. This may have been in one direction only - can’t remember. 
    • Hi   Find attached parts/repair notes for the JLC 911,  might be useful. JLC_JLC 910, 911.pdf JLC_JLC 910, 911 Repair Notes.pdf
    • Hello and welcome to the forum Dan. Used to know Middlesboro quite well, that was twenty years plus ago. Attached a little reading to get you started. TZIllustratedGlossary.pdf
    • for the most part no. Each individual watchmaker and/or shop had their own system. One of the shops I worked at basically had a reference to a page number in a book. then there are some shops that do no markings at all as they keep their records on a computer and they don't have to mark the watch. Usually if somebody is marking and they've service the watch before you'll see those next to each other. then as far as anything resembling a standard goes at one time the American watch and clockmakers Institute assigned all of their members a number. but that was a very long time ago and I doubt that they are using it anymore.
×
×
  • Create New...