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Please help me here, I am not able to wind my Seagull 1963. When I wind it, it doesn't stay and unwinds itself, I mean the crown just unwinds on its own. I had given it to my friend to use and it just happened. I suppose it was wound more than required. What should I do?fbcaecae3be6211640577d6191cb7155.jpg

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1 hour ago, rejijoseph said:

 

Hi,

Please help me here, I am not able to wind my Seagull 1963. When I wind it, it doesn't stay and unwinds itself, I mean the crown just unwinds on its own. I had given it to my friend to use and it just happened. I suppose it was wound more than required. What should I do?fbcaecae3be6211640577d6191cb7155.jpg

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Hello and welcome to the forum! It looks like this is a Venus chronograph175 based movement. This would make it manual winding movement, and there are a few things that could cause what you've described. If the watch offers a tactile resistance when winding, but unwinds on its own, it is probably the click spring. The click is supposed to hold the wound spring (and its power) in place. If the watch winds somewhat, but slips as it winds, then its either broken or its the mainspring arbor. There is a little hook at the end of the mainspring that attaches to a center arbor which is attached to the barrel if the little hook is worn, then there will be no full winding of the watch--but you should feel the slipping as you wind unwinds. Maybe a closer picture of the movement will show if its the click spring?

J

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8 minutes ago, rogart63 said:

Or if it wind and clicks as it should the mainspring could be  broken? Just  in the end? 

As Joe said :) Didn't read was he wrote properly :) 

Yes, it is possible the mainspring could be broken just at the end.

J

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I thank all you guys whole heartedly for helping out here. I would pay a visit to a very good watch repair person here and just diagnose and will share results here and will take an opinion from you brothers. Appreciate it! Cheers!


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Hey Guys! I am glad to respond with a good news. I took a long time however finally found a local watchmaker who is quite good with his reputation as one. Apparently it was the click spring that was broken and the watchmaker replaced it. The Seagull is back in total action and is keeping good time. I have got a theory in my personal thought process, "**BLEEP** happens and you learn". I appreciate the inputs/suggestions/help by each and everyone here. I am fortunate to be with good souls with enthusiasm for mutual and similar passion. Thank You.

 

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