Timing machine

[Murks]

Hi I'm experiencing this on my timing machine reading can this be caused by the beat error?

Edited October 23, 2023 by Murks

[nickelsilver]

That's not the beat error. At the very least there seems to be an issue with the escapement, possibly a number of other things, but it's not the beat error.

[praezis]

Looks like an issue with one pallet jewel: draw too low and pallet fork not at the banking pin or a very very low 1st esc. noise on one side (too low for the TM).

Frank

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, Murks said:

Hi I'm experiencing this on my timing machine reading can this be caused by the beat error?

What watch do you have on it ?

[Murks]

Elgin 292 movement pocketwatch a think it is the pallet forks not right but a don't have the tool to adjust it a did order one but the company had send the wrong one

11 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

What watch do you have on it ?

Elgin 292

[JohnR725]

40 minutes ago, Murks said:

Elgin 292 movement pocketwatch

always nice when doing a discussion is to give us a picture so we know what were dealing with. So for those who are not familiar with the 292 it's a seven jewel American pocket watch like the drawing shows below.

55 minutes ago, Murks said:

think it is the pallet forks not right but a don't have the tool to adjust it a did order one but the company had send the wrong one

American pocket watches can present challenges. For instance manufacturing tolerances were that every single escapement is adjusted for the individual watch. This means if the component is having an issue it's best to fix the issue if at all possible rather than trying to swap for another part that will have to be adjusted anyway as it will not be a drop-in replacement typically. Especially with the key component like a pallet fork.

Then we get the other problems especially if the watch was made over time which is variations. Like the pocket watch database indicates two separate pallet forks but doesn't tell us why?

the problem with the pocket watch database for parts is it doesn't give us the whole picture like the notes CF to go to another website for you get the notes to find out why you of variations and you need your serial number figure out which version you supposed to have.

2 hours ago, Murks said:

Hi I'm experiencing this on my timing machine reading can this be caused by the beat error?

like everyone else the beat is not the problem. If the numbers can be believed at all which I'm suspicious based on the graphical display your amplitude is way too low. But no matter what you have to clean up the mess on the graphical display looks like one side of the escapement is definitely causing an issue and very likely other things.