How to remove pressed on wheel? Specific tool?

[HectorLooi]

Titanium rods are available from AliExpress. Titanium is not some super material as one might think. It cuts like aluminium. I used quite a bit of titanium in dentistry.

The problem with titanium is that it fatigues easily and cracks. Anyone who has used titanium tweezers will understand.

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, mikepilk said:

But where would I get titanium rod ?  Can you file it ?

Ebay sells it. I shaped my titanium tweezers, so i dont see why not. It comes in different grades, the higher the grade no. the less titanium content it has and is harder.

14 minutes ago, HectorLooi said:

Titanium rods are available from AliExpress. Titanium is not some super material as one might think. It cuts like aluminium. I used quite a bit of titanium in dentistry.

The problem with titanium is that it fatigues easily and cracks. Anyone who has used titanium tweezers will understand.

Compared to steel its not particularly tough, but it does have the highest strength to weight ratio. I like it for tweezers because it doesn't scratch  but it tougher than brass, the cheap brass tweezers anyway. So i imagine titanium rods are going to be stronger than brass rods. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Neverenoughwatches

[JohnR725]

6 hours ago, nickelsilver said:

WIth the Bergeon 6016, you slide it under the wheel, then twist the handle, and the two blades tilt, effectively rising in height, bringing the wheel with it. I have one, and never seem to find a wheel the blades actually fit under. I use the Presto tool. Those work great,

Personally I find you need both tools because there are situations where one may not work. Then there is the other problem which I did point out that apparently no one was paying attention to.

3 hours ago, LittleWatchShop said:

My Dad had one. Somebody on this forum called a pivot breaker several years ago.

One of the classic problems with any tool is if you don't know what it is you will break things. Look how much destruction occurs every day with newbies and tweezers and screwdrivers a perfect example of destruction of watches because They don't know what they're doing but we will blame the tools not the individual because that's what we do. So basically the tool is bad the use of it is not especially when the use of the tool may not be obvious to some people

oh and there is the other little problem what exactly does your father have? Oh yes the picture let's look at the picture

Nobody was paying attention to the fine prints because I did point out something let's look at my tool because as I pointed out the quantity of tools that we can purchase seems to have decreased? I wonder what that means when let's look at mine and technically I had the third one but one of the problems With working in A shop with other individuals is if they like your tool it may go missing. So when I left the shop I was unaware of a missing tool or two or three. This is actually a current problem where I work now I can't Lock my bench that I never know if I'll even have my tweezers when I get to work.

 

There appear to be two of them? Now we need the physical catalog because it has stuff that used to exist that no longer does

 

When the problems today of course is you only get one tool and as an added bonus you get a really poor description because it gives you a size that I have no idea what it means because their size references do not compare above you get what is probably the tip size or maybe it's the thickness size on twisted I'd have to measure it and now you get this size that means I have no idea what.

 

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by JohnR725

[HectorLooi]

I made a copy of that tool with 2 sewing needles welded together at other end so that they don't separate and stuck them into the end of a bamboo chopstick.

It does work quite well but it can leave marks on the surface of the plates.

[mikepilk]

8 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

Personally I find you need both tools because there are situations where one may not work. Then there is the other problem which I did point out that apparently no one was paying attention to.

Sorry John, I'll go and stand in the corner 

I did once buy a cheap Presto tool and try to file the end to make a 5 spoke wheel remover. The metal was such poor quality it didn't work.

10 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

 

 

 

The 1.2mm is the thickest bit. The tips are about 0.1mm

[RichardHarris123]

Did anyone notice he used an incorrectly sized screwdriver on the crown and ratchet wheels?  He also seemed content with what I thought was a reasonablely high beat error. 

[rehajm]

1 hour ago, mikepilk said:

Sorry John, I'll go and stand in the corner

Penalty box for me- two minutes by myself to feel shame…then I get free…

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Did anyone notice he used an incorrectly sized screwdriver on the crown and ratchet wheels?  He also seemed content with what I thought was a reasonablely high beat error. 

Shucks have i been doing it wrong as well then

[JohnR725]

2 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

id anyone notice he used an incorrectly sized screwdriver on the crown and ratchet wheels?  He also seemed content with what I thought was a reasonablely high beat error. 

Are you questioning somebody on a YouTube channel how dare you. YouTube personalities are God's we must never ever questioned them. There is quite a few of the watch repair channels that even though as I said these people are gods and I must worship the ground they walk on I think there false gods with an attitude and even though they have a YouTube channel with a whole bunch of followers maybe you should usable common sense like Uber observing here and maybe they really aren't God's maybe there false gods.

Oh and timing machine results? One of my amusements was people selling watches on eBay and they will happily show you the timing machine results and claim the watch was serviced but well I guess their learning and you're going to buy watch and the learning phase because a lot of times the timing machine results suck and I wonder why you're proudly showing your handiwork? On the other hand the probably making money selling these watches on eBay. Although I have seen some legitimate people selling watches where if the watches running to put her on timing machine the show you this is the state of the watch are buying we haven't service did yes it's running but it runs like this. In other words it's running really poorly and there showing you as opposed to look at my handiwork. Which of course brings up the problems you buy something on eBay that was serviced and looks like crap on the timing machine now you'll have to deal with it

3 hours ago, mikepilk said:

Sorry John, I'll go and stand in the corner

Oh I wouldn't worry about this this is a minor issue. If you want to do something bad go against the narrative of a tool blessed by every God in the known universe like I did then you get your story squashed and embarrassed but don't worry it was done for the greater good of the group.

The reality is we can't pay attention to everything is why like group discussions where one person will see something that you don't see and you'll see something different and together as a group we will hopefully see the big picture hopefully.

[rehajm]

I’m sensing a degradation in the quality of the discourse… lemme post what I accomplished today…

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by rehajm

[Neverenoughwatches]

10 minutes ago, rehajm said:

I’m sensing a degradation in the quality of the discourse… 

Haha yep John is on one today, so you better listen up. Yesterday he was talking about using high explosives to blow up watches. I'm just glad i aren't in Seattle tonight,