Interesting Tissot

[anilv]

A lot of us in the watch hobby are aware of the fact that Tissot and Omega are quite closely related, one good example is the Tissot 2481 which is the same movement as the Omega 1481. Even the 10xx Omega's can sometimes be found branded as Tissot.

I have this Tissot and while handling it recently I noticed that its bracelet clasp is signed Omega. Cool but I did not think anything about it... watch straps are easily swapped.

 

Over the weekend I decided to look into the quickset which wasn't ...quicksetting. On this calibre, the quickset is by pushing in the crown. I decased the movement and cycled the quickset, my initial guess was that the stem was cut a hair too short and the crown did not have enough travel to activate the quickset. With the movement out of the case and the crown having unrestricted movement the issue with the quickset remained so it needed some further investigation under the dial. As I am a bit swamped with watch work I decided to reinstall the movement and come back to it some other time.

On blowing the inside of the case out with my puffer, I happened to notice this, the little Omega cartouche in the middle of the crystal inner. You will find this on most original acrylic crystals. I've never seen this before on Tissots.

Next I re-examined the caseback...

Normal Tissot at first glance but it looked a bit unusual.

It seemed like it had been machined and then restamped.  On closer examination, I can make out a mark in the area circled below, can you see it?

Its a bit hard to see in the pic and even with the caseback in hand you really need to have the light at the correct angle but the Omega logo can be faintly seen!

My guess is that there were a surplus of cases/bands which was diverted to Tissot which then machined off the existing markings and engraved their own logo and numbers.

Anyway hope you guys enjoy this insight into the Tissot/Omega relationship!

Anilv

 

Edited June 27, 2022 by anilv

[JohnR725]

2 hours ago, anilv said:

Tissot 2481 which is the same movement as the Omega 1481.

no pictures of the movement?

[Nucejoe]

Were movements in Omega 1481 and Tissot 2481 the same grade? 

How can we tell different grades of a movement apart? 

[markr]

Here is my yard sail find front loader Tissot with a Tissot marked Omega movement and bracelet. Bracelet being SS does't belong on a gold plated watch but it's the same style as the Omega next to it.

[anilv]

14 hours ago, JohnR725 said:

no pictures of the movement?

Hi John... I didnt mtake any because I was more focussed on the Omega related bits.

Should've but too late now, anyway a lot of Tissot 2481 pics on the net.

Anilv

[JohnR725]

in a watch repair discussion group we really do like seeing watch movements.

then histories of watch companies are interesting. I have a link below and yes the two companies had relationships. One of the things that the Swiss have done is from time to time various groups organize and work together. I've heard that they all ask you have agreements not the so watches in various countries so that they basically some countries might even frown on unfair trade practices but they do what they do so that they can sell their watches and prosper in a business.

one of things I noticed as a lot of the watch companies including the Japanese ones it's like the other main brand and then they also have may be a lower grade a secondary brand. People don't always associate them as being related but they're not it's not like they both exist in the same building for instance they are considered separate company's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissot

then for those that like to see pictures of movements here's the Omega 1481

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Omega_1481

then for the tissot 2481

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Tissot_2481

interesting of the Omega doesn't really look like an Omega movement. Or at least what I would consider one of the classic Omega movements

then if you look at the parts list don't notice that yes a sizable quantity the components will interchange. I'm not going click on all of them it's conceivable that some may not interchange maybe

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=TIS_2481

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Neverenoughwatches]

21 hours ago, anilv said:

A lot of us in the watch hobby are aware of the fact that Tissot and Omega are quite closely related, one good example is the Tissot 2481 which is the same movement as the Omega 1481. Even the 10xx Omega's can sometimes be found branded as Tissot.

I have this Tissot and while handling it recently I noticed that its bracelet clasp is signed Omega. Cool but I did not think anything about it... watch straps are easily swapped.

 

Over the weekend I decided to look into the quickset which wasn't ...quicksetting. On this calibre, the quickset is by pushing in the crown. I decased the movement and cycled the quickset, my initial guess was that the stem was cut a hair too short and the crown did not have enough travel to activate the quickset. With the movement out of the case and the crown having unrestricted movement the issue with the quickset remained so it needed some further investigation under the dial. As I am a bit swamped with watch work I decided to reinstall the movement and come back to it some other time.

On blowing the inside of the case out with my puffer, I happened to notice this, the little Omega cartouche in the middle of the crystal inner. You will find this on most original acrylic crystals. I've never seen this before on Tissots.

Next I re-examined the caseback...

Normal Tissot at first glance but it looked a bit unusual.

It seemed like it had been machined and then restamped.  On closer examination, I can make out a mark in the area circled below, can you see it?

Its a bit hard to see in the pic and even with the caseback in hand you really need to have the light at the correct angle but the Omega logo can be faintly seen!

My guess is that there were a surplus of cases/bands which was diverted to Tissot which then machined off the existing markings and engraved their own logo and numbers.

Anyway hope you guys enjoy this insight into the Tissot/Omega relationship!

Anilv

 

An interesting and lovely example of the history of Omega's and Tissot's collaboration to become the holding company SSIH in 1930.