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I had a 3d printer motherboard delivered direct from China a few days ago with no issues or delay as well. Was a warranty part, so I didn't have to deal with anything on the paperwork or payment side. Seems that bit of chaos was short lived. New/more tariffs coming from the kakistocracy soon, so get 'em while you can afford to...

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Horia clone from ali, the quality as gone down hill since the first one i got a while back it was ok until i had a little mishap,Ā  i ordered a second that was delivered this morning, the thimble as alot of play it can be wobbled from side to side it's also missing the reference line/mark.

My old one had a pin in the side while this newer version as a grub screw, i've been going through photos on ali's site from differnent seller to see if i can find a seller that as the pinned version, a lot of sellers only have photos showing one side so you can't tell which version it is, i don't know if i just got a duff one or are all of these with the lower grub screw sub standard.

I'm going to start the return process to ali, then order another from a different seller.

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20 minutes ago, valleyguy said:

I'm going to start the return process to ali, then order another from a different selle

I have noticed some are sold at around 25% less and assumed lower build quality. Did you pay on the higher, lower, average side?

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56 minutes ago, valleyguy said:

Horia clone from ali, the quality as gone down hill since the first one i got a while back it was ok until i had a little mishap,Ā  i ordered a second that was delivered this morning, the thimble as alot of play it can be wobbled from side to side it's also missing the reference line/mark.

My old one had a pin in the side while this newer version as a grub screw, i've been going through photos on ali's site from differnent seller to see if i can find a seller that as the pinned version, a lot of sellers only have photos showing one side so you can't tell which version it is, i don't know if i just got a duff one or are all of these with the lower grub screw sub standard.

I'm going to start the return process to ali, then order another from a different seller.

Kwong Yuen Watch Repair Tool Kit 6175A Cover Lever Bottom Ā Dismantle Watch Ring Press Glass Ā Band for Watchmaker
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPpKpRp

Kwong Yuen is the Bergeon of China. They are known for high quality tools. But their prices are only slightly cheaper than Cousins.Ā 

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I went for the mid priced one, middle of the road, i also thought they'd be lower build quality on the bargain priced ones so best to avoid, the one i got was £76, the lower priced around £50 while the higher priced £85, these are UK prices so not sure what prices ali charge in other parts of the world.

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I paid 130 inc. Shipping 3 years ago, good quality steel and the spindle is quiet accurate,Ā  not perfect but very usable. If you have a lathe and experience, the quality of the stumps and pushers are not so much of a problem, easy to knock out spares.

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I'm thinking of buying a pressure / waterproof tester. This one is not expensive (excepted the shipping costs) and looks like a La Pavoni espresso machine 😃

Does someone use this kind of machine ?

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I ordered the cheap one shown in my earlier post,Ā  I can do a review in a few weeks if there's interest.

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Just received today:

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For only ~60$ *

(*) ~140$ with shipping and custom fees. 3.80 Kg

The pressure should be able to reach up to 6 bars.

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The glass is thick

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The closing system seems to be sturdy.

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Ā 

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The plunger lever(?) and the valve:

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The plunger lever locking system (I will make a notch on top to note the opening position):

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I put 3 bars at let it for 20 minutes, the pressure didn't leaked at all.

Ā 

Next steps:

Quick wash, maybe put someĀ silicone grease on the seal of the lid ?

Ā 

First test I'll do:

  1. Put deionized water til the red line
  2. Put a diver case in the tank, keep it outside the water
  3. Pump (10 ~ 20 times?) to reach 3 bars (0.3MPa)
  4. Wait at least 1 minute
  5. Dip the case into the water
  6. Gently release the pressure and observe

To be continued...

All comments are welcome

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Because the water is very hard with calcium where I live, and I saw that on a youtube demo šŸ¤”... Maybe it's unnecessary...

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I have one of these (different colour scheme) very happy with it!
Not so happy with the recent results... Ā but that is nothing to do with the tester.
My wife wanted a waterproof watch she could take on holiday so I fixed up a nice Mickey Mouse Seiko 5 for her. Ā But after getting a non runner working nicely it failed the pressure test with water seeping in around the crystal šŸ˜žĀ 

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1 hour ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Why deionised water for a pressure test?Ā 

I bought an old Bergeon 5555. The bottom of the tank was full of petrified salts, which also corroded the metal parts a bit.

I would use just distilled water.Ā 

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On 3/3/2024 at 1:51 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

How did you tidy up the ends of the pushers ?

Ā 

On 3/3/2024 at 12:56 PM, iwillnotsaveyou said:

I went ahead and made another order for some more tools from the Kwong Yuen factory.Ā 

Main purchases were Case Opener, Bezel Lift, Strap Puncher, Tube Remover, Jewelling Set, and a set of screwdrivers. Some pics below, happy to take some more pics of anything if someone wants more details.

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I measured the jeweling set, and I'll say the sizes seem consistent, but a little small compared to the printed numbers. Pushers seem to come in about 0.04mm less than marked (220->216). As far as I'm concerned that shouldn't affect its effectiveness much. The actual pushing edge looks decent, but could be dressed to a mirror finish. They come apart and back together without any issues.

Here is one pusher out of the box.

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and after a little dressing.. (first time trying, and probably needs a bit more):captured_photo.thumb.png.767d17798677cbd838de86cfafb5c623.png

How did you get on with the screwdrivers? I was looking at a set and wanting to use the Bergeon tipsĀ 

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On 3/18/2025 at 8:51 AM, valleyguy said:

Horia clone from ali, the quality as gone down hill since the first one i got a while back it was ok until i had a little mishap,Ā  i ordered a second that was delivered this morning, the thimble as alot of play it can be wobbled from side to side it's also missing the reference line/mark.

My old one had a pin in the side while this newer version as a grub screw, i've been going through photos on ali's site from differnent seller to see if i can find a seller that as the pinned version, a lot of sellers only have photos showing one side so you can't tell which version it is, i don't know if i just got a duff one or are all of these with the lower grub screw sub standard.

I'm going to start the return process to ali, then order another from a different seller.

I've been meaning to report back - I bought a Horia clone last month, making a point to pay over $100 instead of trying for one of the rock bottom priced sellers. I think I paid $107 at the time, and the one I received is good. There is almost no noticeable sideshake to the spindle, none on the micrometer head and it has the necessary reference mark on the frame.

I have not examined my pushers under magnification though. I assume they're not worse than any others.

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26 minutes ago, mbwatch said:

I've been meaning to report back - I bought a Horia clone last month, making a point to pay over $100 instead of trying for one of the rock bottom priced sellers. I think I paid $107 at the time, and the one I received is good. There is almost no noticeable sideshake to the spindle, none on the micrometer head and it has the necessary reference mark on the frame.

I have not examined my pushers under magnification though. I assume they're not worse than any others.

I also bought such tool and it's great. Absolutely nothing to complain about. It looks great, feels right and works like a charm.

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