Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Good day.  I am working an AS 1199 and screwed up the hair spring.  I would like to try and fix it (but probably just make it worse....).  There is no release screw on the balance cock for the hairspring stud.  Is it pressed in and if so is there any way to remove it with out damaging the balance cock and or hair spring, and then re-using the same hair spring?   

The movement I am working is unique as it only has one jewl that I can see.  All other 1199s seem to have more.  Just a curiousity, but as such I expect it isn't worh the price of a new balance complete....

AS 1199 balance assembly.jpg

Posted

Yes you can push it out as it is pressure fitted. I tried to find you a post I read earlier, someone made a tool for it as far as I remember -it looked like a little vice, but I failed to find it now. How to correctly push it out? Maybe somebody could give you some hint with more experience. My method is: get it out somehow ? I would place the edge of that HS stud on a block and would try to push it out with something, probably with something from a staking set or anything really, a used pair of tweezers, or a filed screwdriver, toothpick etc.

  • Thanks 1
Posted

Personally I would check how the hairspring is attached to the end stud. If pinned then remove the pin to release the hairspring. Removing the stud is not easy without causing other issues. Looking at the hairspring it is highly unlikely that this will have a successful outcome but always worth trying.

  • Thanks 2
Posted
1 hour ago, clockboy said:

Personally I would check how the hairspring is attached to the end stud. If pinned then remove the pin to release the hairspring. Removing the stud is not easy without causing other issues. Looking at the hairspring it is highly unlikely that this will have a successful outcome but always worth trying.

They are pinned, just remove the pin.

You will increase your chances of success if you remove the whole coil and collet off of the balance, lay on a white flat sheet of paper, see what you got.

The spring doesn't look original.

I believe EB1197 balance complete is interchangable with this.

  • Thanks 1
Posted

I was wrong I just imagined the tool in my head, here is the post I talked about:

Before you try to correct the HS watch Marc's videos as how to correct hairsprings. There are at least two videos about it. And watch this too: 

I am struggling with hairsprings, but I managed to correct 2 of them so far! ? You have a better chance if they are bigger and stronger.

  • Like 2
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Hope you let the mainspring completely unwind before removing the bridge? Use not only a screwdriver, but a pair of good tweezers with curved ends. This will allow to move various sides of the bridge straight up while keeping it in parallel with the main plate. If you use a screwdriver only and top pivot is stuck, then a bridge is being lifted under angle and then you hear that "horrible click". Usually it takes only one instance to learn such lesson in life 😅
    • Regarding the spring winders, I made my own and used copper pipe reducers as the tubes to retain the spring. You will need to cut out a section for the end of the spring to protrude but if you watch one of the many videos on this subject that will make sense. You can find a selection of sizes on Ebay for very little cost. I'll attach a pic showing one of mine.  Good luck!
    • There were things bothering me about this discussion that took me a while to figure out the problem. In the image below it appears to be the spring may be pushing up? Normally when Omega has a spring pushing up the pinion has a pivot with a bridge to hold it in place so in other words the spring can push on something that stationary as opposed to this which appears to be floating? To understand the problem with the above image we need another image of side view which I have below. In my image down below on the left-hand side it agrees with the image up above. But the only problem is the left-hand side is defective and the right-hand side image is the way it's supposed to look. Then Omega if you can access the right documents does explain how and why this problem occurs. With the pinion floating around it might be assumed that you support it when putting on all the hands but you do not because as noted below if you do this small bush on the pinion will relocate out of position exactly what we see in the image up above.   Then Omega does not mention this but there is a possibility of also damaging the pinion and causing the bush to move to where it's not supposed to be when removing the hands.   
    • Maybe show us 1) the watch, 2) timegrapher readings in DU, DD, PU, and PD.
    • The timegrapher displays significant beat error variations in the dial-up position. When the watch is lying flat (face up), the beat error is much higher than in other positions. Beat error readings are inconsistent, with especially large gaps in the face-up position.  Please help !  
×
×
  • Create New...