Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Yesterday I managed to start work on my Seiko chronograph. "Autowind" on the forum was kind enough to donate a watch that had the same type of stem and crown that I required, I really can't thank him enough for that.

I thought all I had to do was to remove the stem from one watch and fit it to the other, but unfortunately (or luckily) the stem was too long. I thought This will be an easy fix, just unscrew the crown and shorten the threads by 1mm. Well I gave it my best shot but it refused to budge, I think it had been fitted using Loctite. As this stem is rather special, it has a spring loaded gear on it to drive an internal rotating bezel, I was frightened I would break it.

After a bit of deliberation, I came up with the idea of using a soldering iron to apply intense heat to the crown. I held the stem tightly in a pin chuck and applied the soldering iron to the crown. After about thirty seconds of applying heat, I used a pair of pliers and the crown unscrewed very easily.

The only caveat, if the crown is not stainless steel or chrome plated, put some high temperature grease on the crown to prevent solder adhering to it.

post-124-0-06626700-1411485480_thumb.jpg

  • Like 1
Posted

I have had to do similar in the past - my method was to heat up a sheet of brass over a spirit lamp and then to leave the stem on the brass and that did the trick. Your method seems quicker and less complicated :)

Posted

Very nice indeed, I usually turn - carefully - first as if tightening and then the opposite direction...but then I haven't found a really stubborn stem yet! I like this idea a lot!

Posted

If proper loctite is used it will soften with heat.

Heat the stem,hold it with a pin vice and twist. It should let go

p.s: sent from my s****y phone so sorry for typing mistakes

Posted

Heat usually solves this problem, some loctite types need this to be loosened. The expansion/contraction also helps.

 

This is fine for retrieving stems but if you're trying to recover a crown then you will need to be prepared to sacrifice and dig out the remains of the old o-ring it there is one.

 

Anil

  • 2 months later...
Posted

In my engineering days when we used loctite threadlock on screws, we used to just give the screw head a sharp tap!  This 'cracked' the loctite in the threads and enabled easy removal.  Not sure if this would be easy to do with a crown/stem !!

Posted (edited)

I personally turn the crown as if to tighten and then back to loosen it. It never fails! Sometimes heat is necessary whey they have used THE OTHER locktite! (read glue instead of thread lock)

Edited by bobm12
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Well, my fundamental stance is that I want to go in and out without leaving any trace other than a shining, perfectly running movement. So, no scratchings on the inside of the case back lid, no marred screws, no debris, no fingerprints, and so on. That is, my goal is to make it impossible for the FBI to track me down. As a professional, I suppose you might want to keep track of returning watches, but as @JohnR725 mentioned, we can keep detailed computer records without marking the watch at all. That may not be true for every watch, but luxury and COSC-certified movements do have unique numbers. John also says it’s best to leave no sign you were ever there, and I couldn't agree more. Now, suppose the Sea-Dweller I'm working on is one day scrapped, and you want to sell the case-back separately (perhaps the case was destroyed in a plane crash). Then the scribbles on the inside no longer reflect the current movement inside the case. Also, the engraving will likely halve the market value of the case back. It had been "sleeping" for about a week and a half. Yes, the "debris/old lubricant" theory is my hypothesis as well! It will be interesting to see what I find once I have time to start disassembling the movement.
    • I've repaired a few of these, having some success with stripping and cleaning the mechanism.  They are so cheap though, its hardly worth the effort in many cases.
    • Get well soon Old Hippy, torn muscles.,  not good
    • Id love to see how he has the output shaft mounted to this setup, as I have the same rotary stage and stepper in my build.
    • If you see at least one thread protruding, or even a half, then you may have a chance using this "tool", but don't squeeze hard. Lot's of patience, and if you notice any signs of loctite or other adhesives, then apply several drops of acetone on top of broken stem. Use heat (hair dryer) also. You should be able gradually turn it counterclockwise, just like i did on this broken Timex stem, which was glued with something like nail hardener. Then you can use an extender to save your broken stem. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/513DVvkfW5L.__AC_SX300_SY300_QL70_ML2_.jpg   You can also try cutting a small grove / slot on top of the broken stem to use 0.7mm flat screwdriver.   Depending on the Crown material and Stem material, you can try dissolving the stem. 
×
×
  • Create New...