Seiko Identification

[mistergrumpy]

Can anyone identify this watch? My partner got it for me in September as I normally repair pocket watches but this was something different for me. It was cheap, in pieces and in a bad way but I've got it working now albeit without the case back on. The problem I have is that the caseback fouls the counterweight when it's screwed on and right at soon as the thread catches and it stops it swinging. The caseback itself has 7009-3171 printed on it and the movement is a 7009A but from Googling it would seem the watch is a 7009-3160 and my thought is that maybe this model has a slightly deeper caseback. Can anyone help?

[jdm]

That is a Frankenstein Seiko, from India or the Philippines. Just look at the weird numbering printed, Seiko never did anything like that and certainly not so misaligned. To get it running you got to be creative, and not too demanding.

Edited October 20, 2017 by jdm

[rogart63]

 

10 minutes ago, jdm said:

That is a Frankenstein Seiko, from India or the Philippines. Just look at the weird numbering printed, Seiko never did anything like that and certainly not so misaligned. To get it running you got to be creative, and too demanding.

That is so wrong. They actually did. Somewhere i have a very similar case. But  i think it is a 6309 movement inside. But could be wrong. But have seen this before. So totally fake it's not. Could be kosher . 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEIKO-MINERAL-CRYSTAL-30-5mm-FOR-SEIKO-7009-3160-MILITARY-MENS-WATCH-/352034930729

This is a link to a crystal for this model. So think it's kosher. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by rogart63

[mistergrumpy]

I did wonder why the numbers were a bit skewed but Google results like this got me wondering.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=7009-3160&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMvazFi4DXAhXEtBoKHQrfBuwQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=588#imgrc=dvrtEnskR-qmJM:

[jdm]

Just now, rogart63 said:

 

That is so wrong. They actually did. Somewhere i have a very similar case. But  i think it is a 6309 movement inside. 

A 6309 in a Seiko 5? Are you sure?

However I was referring to the 24h numbering, which is just uncanny in absence of 12h numbering on the inner dial. Example:

 

 

The case shape is not strange in itself, it's one of the most used, still made today.

[jdm]

6 minutes ago, mistergrumpy said:

I did wonder why the numbers were a bit skewed but Google results like this got me wondering.

Thanks for the link, so Rog was right. It's also missing from the popular database.

[mistergrumpy]

I wonder if it's had a replacement Malaysian crystal that's had the numbers printed on a bit off square.

Does anyone have a case back from a 7009-3160 that they would be able to measure the thickness of please? I'm looking an Ebay but I'm not seeing any empty cases.

[mistergrumpy]

Just for closure I got one from Spain and it is thicker which allows space for the counterweight to move. Thanks for the help given.

[Watchtime]

Typical Mumbay franken Seiko....I bought these when I lacked any knowledge of watches. I was very proud I had Seiko's no one had...LOL