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Hi one and all, I have a Seiko 6119-6400 that I purchased with a broken off winding stem and missing crown. On removing the broken stem I found the new stem wouldn't "click" in, after taking excellent advice from this forum I found the stem release button had been pushed through too far. I removed movement from the case and then removed the dial, date ring, day disc, etc and put the parts that had been pushed out back in their correct positions and reassembled. Now when I push the crown in the date ring advances one day, but I can't get the day disc to move/advance. The problem is that I have never owned a 6119-6400 before and have no idea how it should work, I only found how to advance the date by accident and can't fathom how the day disc should be advanced. This leaves me wondering if it's my lack of knowledge or I have made a mistake? Any advice gratefully received. Johnnie

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The day is advanced by pressing the crown a little harder. In that way you turn the day ring. There is a little finger on the movement that hits the dayring. Did you get the dayring in the right position when you put it on? 

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Hi Rogart, thanks for replying. I am not sure if I got that part right so will have to disassemble and look. The problem is that I really don't know where to look. Hopefully I will spot where I have messed up. At least now I have an idea what I am looking for. 

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This little arm is that there? dis_date11.jpg.b7090bdb3ed52cb04be353c7d7711b40.jpg

And this has to be in the right position . Lifting it out until it lays outside the star on the dayring. reassm_date.thumb.jpg.57f0de8e07ae43a31b8aa19afbf08f29.jpg

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Hi Rogart. This is where I am at. You are right about pushing crown a bit further, but when I refit the dial the date wheel will advance but the day will seems to jam up.

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So you got a replacement crown and stem?

1. If you've trimmed the stem too short the crown will bottom to soon an won't allow full movement.

2. The crown design may not allow full movement.

3. If you are using a used crown, the crown may have dirt in the inside that prevents the stem to gVe full movement.

Try pushing the crown and see if the day changes.. if it does then your problem in the stem or crown.

All the best.

Anil

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Hi Anil, no I have NOT trimmed the stem yet, I was trying to get things working properly first. 

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The day ring is is broken. The yellow ring in the middlle should come of to . And the star shaped part should sit on the dayring. Could maybe be put back together. But maybe it's easier to get a new dayring? Is it black or white?  124112V2.JPG.6d44c95b4f2b2f5d88b9a1be9b98965b.JPG

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3 hours ago, Johnnie said:

Hi Rogart, this is the day ring as it came out.

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That is missing the star inside. I have one i think. Shall just see if it's the right one. Yours have 870 557 and mine has 870 559. Have a 870 670 also. But that has other languages. 

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Hi Rogart, great! I am pleased something is missing, I was careful taking the day wheel off. Now wondering if the bit that's missing has been left behind if that's possible?

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39 minutes ago, Johnnie said:

Hi Rogart, great! I am pleased something is missing, I was careful taking the day wheel off. Now wondering if the bit that's missing has been left behind if that's possible?

The part that is missing is still on the movement.  You will have to take the little brass ring that sits on the hour wheel off. Then you can remove the star shaped gear by lifting it up. It's tricky to put the star back in the right position but can be done. But need to be in the exact same place as it was before. Easiest is to replace the disc. Is it a 4 a clock crown on your watch. 

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Hi Rogart, then I will replace the disc as you suggested then I know it will be right. This watch is teaching me much. 

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