Jump to content

Seiko 6119 6400


Recommended Posts

Hi everyone, I am pretty new to watch repair and need to ask the forum a question (probably hundreds of questions really) anyway, I have a Seiko 6119 6400 that is running when shaken but is missing it's crown and winding stem. I was wondering if anyone can tell me where I may obtain these parts? Many thanks in advance. Johnnie

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Take a look here. http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=SEK+CS%236119-6400&submit=Search

There you can see which parts you need. Finding them on Ebay and other places. 

You will need a special stem and gear for the inner bezel to work.

That is not easy to find. And will cost some money. 

Edited by rogart63
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The gear for the inner bezel could still be in there? Then you will only need a new stem? Those i have seen on Ebay . Crown is the same as the Pogue. There is AM crowns that look almost like the original. Nice watch that is well worth restoring. Have done a few .

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi again Rogart63, I have managed to obtain a new crown and winding stem (£50.00) not cheap but the watch looks awful without it. I am very new to watch repairing, the spring is still there so hopefully it just needs the crown and winding stem. Could you tell me if the stem simply pushes in, or is there more to fitting it than that? Any advice would be most welcome. 

IMG_20170422_142857.jpg

IMG_20170422_143015.jpg

IMG_20170422_142511.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ooops . That is in a way good? That means that the small gear the turns the bezel is probably there also. But that does also mean that the rest off the stem is still in the movement. And the movement needs to come out? Maybe just maybe you can take the stem out if you can grip it with something? At the same time as you press the release button on the movement. 

You will need to shorten the stem when you get it. Taking in that the date mechanism need to work when you press the crown in. Little tricky. 

But first get the old stem out. And we take it from there. 

First try to take the spring out? 

But well worth saving that watch 

Edited by rogart63
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you Very much Rogart63, I won't get the new stem until the 28th, looking at the watch I think you are right, I think I can see the end of the stem. I will attempt to remove it tomorrow in daylight as I struggle with artificial light. Many many thanks for your time and advice it is most welcome. Regards Johnnie

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Johnnie,

You say it runs when shaken? These watching cannot be hand wound (hence winding-stem is actually a misnomer), you need to shake it for about a minute to get a decent amount or mainspring power on it.

Having said that, if the crown has been missing for some time it would be best to service the movement as a lot of dirt can get in thru the hole.

Anilv

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Anilv, I think you are probably right about servicing the movement, the problem is I don't think I have the skill and knowhow yet! I have a Seiko 6319 7010 that I have disassembled and oiled and hopefully on reassembly it will work,,,,,,,, maybe!  Johnnie

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Johnnie said:

Hi Anilv, I think you are probably right about servicing the movement, the problem is I don't think I have the skill and knowhow yet! I have a Seiko 6319 7010 that I have disassembled and oiled and hopefully on reassembly it will work,,,,,,,, maybe!  Johnnie

Think so to. But start with the stem and get that working? Then you have at least all the parts to make it complete? As you say. Service can be done later. When you have accomplised the skills to make the service. 6119 movement isn't that much different then the 6319 . 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi, hopefully the stem and crown will arrive in the next few days? I am trying to find a diagram of the crown stem gear and spring assembly, the watch arrived without the crown etc so I didn't disassemble it, so have no idea of the correct way it should be assembled. The last thing I want to do is ruin the watch!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can post a picture of a similar crown in a few days. Have a Seiko Pouge on the way. 

But you can find a lot of pictures of the similar  crown and stem with gear and spring on the net. 

Stem need to be shorter then on the picture. But the exact length you need to find out when the parts arrive. 

p1010768a.thumb.jpg.cbe57d62ea0bf60826d4f03e9ad7b617.jpg

Edited by rogart63
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well here I sit contemplating my next move! Can't seem to get the new stem to engage properly. The new stem is correct as I have compared and measured it twice. I have tried pressing stem release button but that doesn't help. I don't want to force it so I have walked away for a nice cup of Yorkshire tea, any advice gratefully received. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think.... I know why stem won't engage and stay in... The little stem release button has stayed down(I hope this is making sense) any ideas??? Or will I have to take the watch to pieces??? I don't really want to as the watch is running sweetly and I am not very confident about doing that. I have dropped a little watch oil down the hole hoping it will release and pop back up. Any advice please.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 years later...

NOS Original Stem for Seiko 6119-6023 6119-6050 6119-6053 6119-6400 6119-7160 63

Seller : 

seikosis (7392 ) This advert is on eBay at present so good luck. 

On 10/12/2020 at 5:35 PM, mtreed2009 said:

Hello Johninie. Could you direct me to the place where you finally found the Stem and Crown for the 6119-6400?

 

Thanks 

 

Mtreed2009

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Hope you mum keeps on mending. I was adamant that I was going to get myself going after my stroke. I was only 52. I still have a lot of life left to live. Some people give up. Some people don't let it beat them. Your mum sounds like one of the winners. 👍
    • Moved in. Now working out the best place to have things so moving around the room makes sense. The wooden movement testing rig may end up being suspended from the roof with some pulleys and ropes that I salvaged from some alfresco blinds that we replaced. I always seem to salvage things from things we scrap thinking, "I have an idea what I can use these for." I hope I'm not the only one that does that. My wife hates me for it. "What are you going to do with all this crap?" Anyway, here you go. If anyone has suggestions for workflow around a room, speak up. All Ideas are appreciated. The bench on wheels will carry either a laptop or my Samsung table for using with the little camera that is on the tripod for photos while dismantling etc. The small bar fridge in the corners going to have water etc in it and I might move the coffee maker from the kitchen out there as I am the only one that uses it. I want to get an ultrasonic cleaner so I may set up some sort of cleaning rig in front of the glass of the sliding door. Where the grandmother clock is currently standing. I'm hoping that I will be able to transition my working area, which is the table that the stool is sitting in front of, fairly easily between clocks and watches. I'll be doing my best to make sure that tools for each are separatedwhen stored. Logistics. I'll have a bit of wall space for being able to hang clocks if I find some that I wish to keep or hopefully at some time to be able to hang customer clocks for monitoring after servicing/repairs. The clock on the left in the blue pillow slip and the grandmother clock are earmarked for  Jarryd and his wife, Sara. He helped me move the benches in today. And then went on to tell me that ticking clocks drive him nuts. Who doesn't like the rhythmic ticking of a clock? I have a green pad for adding to the bench for a working surface. It is not a cutting mat or one of the Bergeon mats. It is actually a green desk writing mat. Was really cheap and will do exactly what I want, I think. I also have to get the sparkies back that put our new stove in to put some power points on the walls behind the benches. Hopefully this is all going to go well. I'm excited about it. It'll beat having to live out in the garage doing it. The other thing I have to do is cut a circle or square of plastic to go over the bouncing watch or clock part black hole in the middle of the floor. I would pretty much guarantee that anything that sproings off the bench would end up going straight down that drain. 😄      I think I have been on this forum about 4 years and still yet to really strike a blow. That's a bit sad isn't it. Signed up to Mark's watch course and have yet to buy the movement for working on. Have most of the tools I think I will need so now all just a matter of will.  
    • So leave off the seconds. Stand the movement on its edge, its the dial edge that rests on the pad ( either rubber or cork , something that wont slip ). Use a finger of your left hand to hold the movement upright,  right hand presses the release and flicks out the stem. I do it this way so i can see what I'm under a microscope. But you could hold the movement between two fingers of your left hand, its the right that has to manipulate the stem out by pushing the release and flicking out the stem with  right ring finger nail. Sounds more complicated than it actually is. I guess you could fix a push pin to something solid, then all you need to do is push the release against the pin, leaving your right hand completely free to pull the stem out.
    • Try putting everything back together and closing the back cover. I think one of the two springs has to contact the metal casing to ground the casing. So when you press the button, it will touch the contact on circuit board and close the circuit.
    • Yes, the seconds hand is the longest and goes almost to the edge of the dial. I can’t quite picture it how you do it on the rubber pad
×
×
  • Create New...