Jump to content

unidentified movement - inherited Granddaughter clock

Preston

By Preston
in All Things Clocks

 Share

Recommended Posts

Preston New Member

Preston

Posted
Posted

Good morning, I came across another post whilst trying to research my Granddaughter clock mechanism and wonder if anyone could help me.

The pendulum suspension is missing completely, and I need to identify type in order to source a replacement, there are no identifying marks part from P60 stamped in one corner.

Images below in google folder, any help or direction greatly appreciated.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WkYEFYQh1zGWbNQN9

Link to comment
Share on other sites
watchweasol Distinguished Member

watchweasol

Posted
Posted

Hi and welcome to the forum.    The p60 probably refers to the pendulum length. The clock it’s self I would say is of European origin. Most likley German.  I think I have one the same in my drawer.  Three train rack striking movement without auto correct as the long lever has an extension to manually release the strike to sync the strike with the hands.  Without seeing the top view and identifying the auto correct pawls that’s an assumption.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
oldhippy Distinguished Member

oldhippy

Posted
Posted

Thank you for your introduction and welcome to this friendly forum.

We all look forward to your contributions and continued involvement. 

Looking at the dial at 6 looks like Made in England. Could you post a close up photo please. The barrels can be removed without taking the movement to pieces. Pendulums in that shape I have seen many times on Smiths Grandmother clocks.  Grand mother/ Grand daughter clocks are the same, height 4 to 5 foot. 

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Preston New Member

Preston

Posted
  • Author
Posted
24 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Thank you for your introduction and welcome to this friendly forum.

We all look forward to your contributions and continued involvement. 

Looking at the dial at 6 looks like Made in England. Could you post a close up photo please. The barrels can be removed without taking the movement to pieces. Pendulums in that shape I have seen many times on Smiths Grandmother clocks.  Grand mother/ Grand daughter clocks are the same, height 4 to 5 foot. 

 

Thankyou for your reply, I have put more images into the file. It looks like the dial has been replaced at some stage, there is a faint outline and some pin holes. It would be nice to restore near to original or sympathetic, labour of love and learning rather than value.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
oldhippy Distinguished Member

oldhippy

Posted
Posted

The more I look at the movement I'm convinced it's German. That dial is certainly a replacement.  You are going to need some clock makers tools if you decide to clean it. Have you any knowledge about clock repairs? I would not recommend starting on such a movement without good experience.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Preston New Member

Preston

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

The more I look at the movement I'm convinced it's German. That dial is certainly a replacement.  You are going to need some clock makers tools if you decide to clean it. Have you any knowledge about clock repairs? I would not recommend starting on such a movement without good experience.

I have dabbled in the past with mechanical movements in things such as tinplate toys and the like, but have no real experience with Clock mechanisms. I would welcome advice and recommendations on the best way to move forward and what I would need to do so.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
watchweasol Distinguished Member

watchweasol

Posted
Posted

Hi attached below is the dial on my grand mother clock for reference I would say it’s around the same date.  The movement in mine is an Urgos  if I remember correctly it has auto correct.  As you can see the dial has the Arabic numerals not Roman. Looking at that dial on yours reminds me of some very modern dial  styles and as you have noticed it may well be an addition. It looks somewhat out of character. Would look better with the dial changedIMG_0125.thumb.jpeg.053a99a0885b686b8f7c45a94d94b008.jpeg

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
oldhippy Distinguished Member

oldhippy

Posted
Posted
15 hours ago, Preston said:

I have dabbled in the past with mechanical movements in things such as tinplate toys and the like, but have no real experience with Clock mechanisms. I would welcome advice and recommendations on the best way to move forward and what I would need to do so.

My advice would be start on something from this lot. These are Smiths strikes cheap to buy and plenty of parts available. If you see one you like let me know and I'll help. I would normally suggest a time piece but not many about. You clock dates before the second world war so before 1939, factories stop production on such things they were instructed to make parts for the war machine. 

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=smiths+clock+strike+&_sacat=0

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • watchfellow
      Stem broken - can it be rescued?

      By watchfellow · Posted

      I think that a 814/825 stem would work, there are a lot of compatible parts between these.
    • watchfellow
      Venus 178 hour counter creep

      By watchfellow · Posted

      Hi everyone, I put together a Venus 178 recently, but found that the hour counter "creeps" ie. runs when the chrono is disengaged. This is the similar type of setup as the Omega 861, where the hour counter is driven off the mainspring barrel, but stopped when the chrono is disengaged by a friction spring.  Am I correct in assuming that the friction spring for the hour counter driving pinion should be dry? I am guessing that the issue will be either the spring or the driving pinion, but while the driving pinion has some wear the spring looks decent.  I've attached a couple of photos in case anyone has any tips. Thanks in advance!
    • watchfellow
      Setting power reserve on LeCoultre Futurematic

      By watchfellow · Posted

      Thanks everyone for the replies. It seems setting the hand is a bit of a guessing game, and I thought there would be a very specific way to do it. Since the reserve indicator hand moves clockwise as the spring is wound, I tried setting it right at the start of the black side. But setting it there doesn't really make sense, because by the time the spring is halfway wound, the hand is only at the end of the red side... In my head halfway wound shouldn't mean the hand is still "in the red."
    • Chief
      Intro

      By Chief · Posted

      Lovely part of the country! I spend most of my days driving along the A64 for work in and around York. I'll be sure to drop plenty of questions soon! I've actually got a couple of watches on the way that I'm pretty sure I'll need some help with! They look pretty beat up from the pics but I love a challenge and an excuse to buy more tools 🤣
    • oldhippy
      Help - London Elliott Mantle Clock Night Silence

      By oldhippy · Posted

      I have two of these in my home. You need to remove the movement from the case, take off the hands and remove the dial and take a few good photos of the front plate so I can see what the problem is. The round nut unscrews and the hands pull off pull them off from the center and not the tips as you could break them. 
×
×
  • Create New...