Russian Sekonda watch.

[awatson]

I have found an old Sekonda watch which seems in poor condition.  I has sparked an interest in reconditioning such watches.  The back came off quite easily and the components carefully removed and safely stored.   Unfortunately when it came to the front matters did not go so well. I am left with a small bridge, a brass gear and tiny retaining screw.  Will some kind soul show me how to reassemble these parts.   All guidance gratefully received.   I do not know the movement type or model of the watch.   Thanks again.   

           Anthony Escott-Watson     

[watchweasol]

Hi  Do you have the maker and caliber. if you turn the plate over under where the balance fits or on the train bridge there should be a number and logo. and apicture of the other side of the plate please.

[Marc]

Keyless works suggest Raketa, but I don't think 2609.HA or 2628.H. Either way I think both parts go on the movement side not the dial side, so a pic of the other side of the main plate would help.

The wheel looks like a center wheel and the cock may be what holds it in place, but that's just guessing until we can see the other side.

[Neverenoughwatches]

8 minutes ago, Marc said:

Keyless works suggest Raketa, but I don't think 2609.HA or 2628.H. Either way I think both parts go on the movement side not the dial side, so a pic of the other side of the main plate would help.

The wheel looks like a center wheel and the cock may be what holds it in place, but that's just guessing until we can see the other side.

It sure is a Raketa marc, the set bridge is very distinctive. I think you are right though the center wheel bridge spans across the plate with a screw at each end on a 2609 ha. The train bridge is always marked with the calibre number and often an SU stamped on the makers side. Very easy watch to work on. The OP should have little problem with this as long as its all there.

Edited July 20, 2023 by Neverenoughwatches

[VWatchie]

I would guess Raketa as well. Here are some pictures from a Raketa 2609.HA assembly that could possibly be of help.

[Neverenoughwatches]

15 minutes ago, VWatchie said:

I would guess Raketa as well. Here are some pictures from a Raketa 2609.HA assembly that could possibly be of help.

The center wheel bridge plate i was described, the op's is different. 

Edited July 20, 2023 by Neverenoughwatches

[VWatchie]

31 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Very easy watch to work on.

Yes, it's a very basic, robust, and accurate movement, but it has its challenges. I'm thinking about the cap jewels and their springs for the escape wheel pivots which can be a bit tricky to handle plus the centre wheel and pallet-fork end-shake which must be superprecise to prevent the shellac on the entry stone from colliding with the teeth on the centre wheel. So, perhaps not the most perfect beginner's movement.

 

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 minute ago, VWatchie said:

Yes, it's a very basic, robust, and accurate movement, but it has its challenges. I'm thinking about the cap jewels and their springs for the escape wheel pivots which can be a bit tricky to handle plus the centre wheel and pallet-fork end-shake which must be superprecise to prevent the shellac on the entry stone from colliding with the teeth on the centre wheel. So, perhaps not the most perfect beginner's movement.

 

The 2609 also has a full plate that clips down on the dial side to hold the some of the motion works in place.

[VWatchie]

30 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

The 2609 also has a full plate that clips down on the dial side to hold the some of the motion works in place.

Yes, it keeps the minute wheel and the setting wheel in place. What's so unusual is that it's friction-fitted in the main plate (red circles). I never saw that before. Anyway, it works!

[Neverenoughwatches]

6 minutes ago, VWatchie said:

Yes, it keeps the minute wheel and the setting wheel in place. What's so unusual is that it's friction-fitted in the main plate (red circles). I never saw that before. Anyway, it works!

I know this watch better than any other, my first and sentimental. 

[watchweasol]

On the pars list it’s noted as.   Center wheel cock.    Or center wheel jewel.  If you want the sheet let me know. 

[awatson]

Thank you al for your kind and most helpful replies. I am overwhelmed by your knowledge and willingness to assist and guide a not very bright learner.   I am going to take time to carefully study your input and try to be more careful in future.   There is a number printed on the inside of the base which 20516.   Will post a pickie asap.  Believe it or not whole  internet thing is   fairly new. Most of my life spent in remote parts of Africa.   Nearest civilisation was a two hour 4x4 drive away.    Thank you all again.  

Anthony Watson 

Herewith pickia of the back of the watch.  i hope it helps you to help me.   Thanks again for your guidance and expertise. 

    Anthony Escott-Watson 

[Neverenoughwatches]

On 7/20/2023 at 1:25 PM, VWatchie said:

Yes, it keeps the minute wheel and the setting wheel in place. What's so unusual is that it's friction-fitted in the main plate (red circles). I never saw that before. Anyway, it works!

It works perfectly,  just doesnt look like it would, there is tension between the two locating tabs pulling them outwards. I've not found that anywhere else up to now either.

[awatson]

Looks vaguely like the dial side of my Seconda. the big bridge does not match though. Any further thoughts?