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Oris, Bucherer and Universal Geneve watches from thrift store. Your opinions please.


Wouter

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Hello to you all. Last week I visited a local thrift store and found some watches I think are interesting as learning projects, as I'm still at the start of my watch making roadmap.

First watch is an Oris with a 7 jewel 292 movement. Second watch is a Bucherer automatic. Third watch is a Universal Geneve with a microrotor movement. Oris and Bucherer are complete, first assessment is that need complete service but show no apparent defects (at this stage). Universal has the wrong case, but recovering that movement is a challenge in itself.

I'd appreciate links to service sheets etc or links to service jobs on similar watches. Thanks in advance!

 

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2 hours ago, Wouter said:

Hello to you all. Last week I visited a local thrift store and found some watches I think are interesting as learning projects, as I'm still at the start of my watch making roadmap.

First watch is an Oris with a 7 jewel 292 movement. Second watch is a Bucherer automatic. Third watch is a Universal Geneve with a microrotor movement. Oris and Bucherer are complete, first assessment is that need complete service but show no apparent defects (at this stage). Universal has the wrong case, but recovering that movement is a challenge in itself.

I'd appreciate links to service sheets etc or links to service jobs on similar watches. Thanks in advance!

 

Oris1.jpg

Oris2.jpg

Bucherer1.jpg

Bucherer2.jpg

Universal1.jpg

Universal2.jpg

Hi wouter. I cant comment on the UG or the Bucherer but Oris were my first repair watches and i still love working on them. The 292 is a 50s movement the syringe hands are a rough indication of this. So you are potentially looking at a 70+ year old watch. Fair quality though for their time. Oris has a fascinating history as well so have a little look at this. The rachet and click are dial side and you have a rocker bar time set and winding system. Be sure to replace your 3 cog wheels here correct side up, one side is bevelled. The return spring can be a bugger to re fit so just remember how you've taken it out. Positioning the cogs plate and spring can all be a bit fiddly so take your time. Train side, be careful at the start. The third wheel that drives the center seconds pinion is friction fitted, safest way to remove is with the correct tool, a  presto removal tool specific for this wheel. Without it be very careful and creative as it needs to be lift directly upwards with a slight twisting motion as you can imagine to help release it. 

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2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Hi wouter. I cant comment on the UG or the Bucherer but Oris were my first repair watches and i still love working on them. The 292 is a 50s movement the syringe hands are a rough indication of this. So you are potentially looking at a 70+ year old watch. Fair quality though for their time. Oris has a fascinating history as well so have a little look at this. The rachet and click are dial side and you have a rocker bar time set and winding system. Be sure to replace your 3 cog wheels here correct side up, one side is bevelled. The return spring can be a bugger to re fit so just remember how you've taken it out. Positioning the cogs plate and spring can all be a bit fiddly so take your time. Train side, be careful at the start. The third wheel that drives the center seconds pinion is friction fitted, safest way to remove is with the correct tool, a  presto removal tool specific for this wheel. Without it be very careful and creative as it needs to be lift directly upwards with a slight twisting motion as you can imagine to help release it. 

Thanks for these guidelines. I'll keep them in mind for sure.

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 The vintage  pin pallet ( in-house) Oris is collectable, it'll eventually run but refuses to show accurate time, case looks good, they mostly are worn down to the brass, you might get the dial look a bit cleaner, should you decide to sell  it can  fetch aprox $130. 

The bucherer can be a daily wearer, eta 2824  parts are increasingly getting hard to find. 

Best of the bunch is obviously the Universal Geneve. Good luck getting it completed with 100% Genuine parts and case,  definately a keeper.

 Regds

 

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