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Diving into watch repair


ManSkirtBrew

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I've always been interested in watches and clocks, and pretty much anything mechanical. For the last year or so I've been watching hundreds of repair videos, and finally decided to take the plunge.

I'm already into scale modeling, and used to do a lot of radio control, so I've got a pretty good stock of small tools and magnification. I fleshed them out with a bunch from Cas-Ker, and here I am taking apart my first movement: an Elgin 345. It's a non-working movement I picked up to practice on so I wouldn't ruin the running and very nice Elgin pocketwatch I also picked up. You'll find my first question in the forum shortly 😉

About me personally, I live up here in the woods of northern NJ, and am the owner/brewer of Man Skirt Brewing in Hackettstown. Not a bad gig!

 

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    • Not easy to find this one everywhere,  so it depends where you are located. Joining it back together might be possible, i have silver soldered mild steel before even with traditional plumbers lead and its a pretty strong joint, but bere in mind this is only 1mm diameter.  The join would need to be very accurate,  it not something i have heard of anyone trying before. The part no 401 is the swiss code number and relates to watch winding stems in general
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    • Hi   Find attached parts/repair notes for the JLC 911,  might be useful. JLC_JLC 910, 911.pdf JLC_JLC 910, 911 Repair Notes.pdf
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