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The base is the same in variants of the caliber, I take pictures as you turn down specially of the date mech that you are not familiar with, this will not only help during assembly it also is a gallary to refer to and show how things were, where you might come face an issue,  if a datasheet exist,  it will be found.

Tell as much as you know of the history, issues etc.

Good luck.

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3 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

The base is the same in variants of the caliber, I take pictures as you turn down specially of the date mech that you are not familiar with, this will not only help during assembly it also is a gallary to refer to and show how things were, where you might come face an issue,  if a datasheet exist,  it will be found.

Tell as much as you know of the history, issues etc.

Good luck.

Unfortunately, like an idiot I didn't document during disassembly and it was too late by the time I realised it was an earlier variant. 

I've circled the area I'm having trouble with, it's where the calendar click would usually go on a 2824-2.

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No problem, just good to make a habbit of.

Now internet acting up so can't give you this link dierctly,but.

Go to search function, search 

ETA Cal 2824-2 (17 jewels) disassembly/ assembly by vWatchie dated jun 10,2119.

Excellent walkthrough.

Good luck.

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6 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

No problem, just good to make a habbit of.

Now internet acting up so can't give you this link dierctly,but.

Go to search function, search 

ETA Cal 2824-2 (17 jewels) disassembly/ assembly by vWatchie dated jun 10,2119.

Excellent walkthrough.

Good luck.

Thank you for that, just found that thread and looked through his disassembly photos, unfortunately it's a slightly different date change mechanism on the movement I'm working on, can't seem to find any pics online at all!

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7 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

No problem, just good to make a habbit of.

Now internet acting up so can't give you this link dierctly,but.

Go to search function, search 

ETA Cal 2824-2 (17 jewels) disassembly/ assembly by vWatchie dated jun 10,2119.

Excellent walkthrough.

Good luck.

oops 2019 not 2119. 

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2 minutes ago, Ageorge1988 said:

Thank you for that, just found that thread and looked through his disassembly photos, unfortunately it's a slightly different date change mechanism on the movement I'm working on, can't seem to find any pics online at all!

Ok, show and number peices of date change train, you will be shown where each pieces goes. 

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4 minutes ago, Ageorge1988 said:

These original 2824 docs say it's part number 2556 for the date wheel, is that in place of 2555?

I can't work out how the jumper spring (part #2575) fits.

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2575 fits behind 2576 to push it into date disk "detent". 

A picture worth a thousand words, isn't it.

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10 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

2575 fits behind 2576 to push it into date disk "detent". 

A picture worth a thousand words, isn't it.

I've got 2576 in the right place I think, I tried to fit 2575 where I've drawn in blue pen, it was tight but went in and then snapped so I've either put it in the wrong place, been too heavy handed or the part was worn as it's from a circa 1970's rotary.

I've ordered a replacement part from ebay.

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On 11/18/2020 at 7:36 AM, Ageorge1988 said:

I've got 2576 in the right place I think, I tried to fit 2575 where I've drawn in blue pen, it was tight but went in and then snapped so I've either put it in the wrong place, been too heavy handed or the part was worn as it's from a circa 1970's rotary.

I've ordered a replacement part from ebay.

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I've now got a replacement spring (2575) if anybody knows how to install it?

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