Jump to content

My LIP


Recommended Posts

Hello everyone, today I'm showing another watch of my collection : my Lip Chronometer.

 

8368b80b8f21de99b1631588acf384b9.jpg

 

 

Brand Lip

Model Chronographe

Movement 7730 Valjoux

Case material Gold plated

Year ?

 

0b226aaf36623da8f01e2acba8122add.jpg

 

I don't know anything else about this watch, so if somebody has some infos I will be glad to hear them !

 

I can't do a summary of the history of Lip because the story is tooooo long. Idk if the brand Lip is known in other countries in the world, but in France Lip is a symbol. Lip is the french watch that your grand parents had, and gave to your parents etc...

 

Lip exist since 1867, and since that date there has been some issues with the worker, even taking them to block the factory and sell the watches themselves so that it doesnt close during the quartz crisis !

 

If you want to know more about that brand, I suggest you to go to :

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIP_(company)

 

 

A. Nogues, watchmaking student.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/2/2020 at 4:27 AM, AdrianNOGUES said:

 

Hello everyone, today I'm showing another watch of my collection : my Lip Chronometer.

 

8368b80b8f21de99b1631588acf384b9.jpg

 

 

Brand Lip

Model Chronographe

Movement 7730 Valjoux

Case material Gold plated

Year ?

 

0b226aaf36623da8f01e2acba8122add.jpg

 

I don't know anything else about this watch, so if somebody has some infos I will be glad to hear them !

 

I can't do a summary of the history of Lip because the story is tooooo long. Idk if the brand Lip is known in other countries in the world, but in France Lip is a symbol. Lip is the french watch that your grand parents had, and gave to your parents etc...

 

Lip exist since 1867, and since that date there has been some issues with the worker, even taking them to block the factory and sell the watches themselves so that it doesnt close during the quartz crisis !

 

If you want to know more about that brand, I suggest you to go to :

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIP_(company)

 

 

A. Nogues, watchmaking student.

 

Classic 60s. Great example from that era. I run in to Lip on occasion but I also dont know much about them. Thanks for sharing!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very interesting read. My only contact with 'LIP' watches is this electronic movement, that I'm currently waiting to receive in the post.  A bit of research, prior to buying it, showed that it is a LIP R148, apparently the first electronic watch to have a date complication.....

INHJmXW.jpg

tb3JW8R.jpg

I have nothing to use it in yet, but thought that for £10, including carriage, it was too good a chance to pass up, to acquire some rare spares for the future......

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very interesting read. My only contact with 'LIP' watches is this electronic movement, that I'm currently waiting to receive in the post.  A bit of research, prior to buying it, showed that it is a LIP R148, apparently the first electronic watch to have a date complication.....
INHJmXW.jpg&key=8b7a4ddf37312fdce077992e88f22931608eafd3098217c4cf38a3208a726488
tb3JW8R.jpg&key=af7b2b1161b83a462d9ea887fad80abd1532699f82085c0f8b5aa2bc31991726
I have nothing to use it in yet, but thought that for £10, including carriage, it was too good a chance to pass up, to acquire some rare spares for the future......

Awesome ! This movement looks well done !


A. Nogues, watchmaking student.
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, AdrianNOGUES said:


Awesome ! This movement looks well done !


A. Nogues, watchmaking student.

It will be interesting to see if I can get it running when it arrives. I've had successful repairs on plenty of Timex electric/electronic movements, salvaged a non running ESA9158 with a replacement electronic module and fixed the date change problem on an electronic ESA9157 a couple of days ago. I also currently have a Seiko 3703 electronic on the bench, awaiting a replacement third wheel, which should see it running again, so as long as the coil on this one is not damaged it may well be salvageable....:thumbsu:

Just realised that this movement, because of the date complication, is a LIP R184 not R148 as previously stated....:blink:

Edited by JohnD
hyperlink added
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It will be interesting to see if I can get it running when it arrives. I've had successful repairs on plenty of Timex electric/electronic movements, salvaged a non running ESA9158 with a replacement electronic module and fixed the date change problem on an electronic ESA9157 a couple of days ago. I also currently have a Seiko 3703 electronic on the bench, awaiting a replacement third wheel, which should see it running again, so as long as the coil on this one is not damaged it may well be salvageable....:thumbsu:
Just realised that this movement, because of the date complication, is a LIP R184 not R148 as previously stated....:blink:

I hope you succeed in everything you will do and I would love to see the end result! I don't know anything about electric and electronic movements :(


A. Nogues, watchmaking student.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/2/2020 at 10:27 AM, AdrianNOGUES said:

 

Hello everyone, today I'm showing another watch of my collection : my Lip Chronometer.

 

8368b80b8f21de99b1631588acf384b9.jpg

 

 

Brand Lip

Model Chronographe

Movement 7730 Valjoux

Case material Gold plated

Year ?

 

0b226aaf36623da8f01e2acba8122add.jpg

 

I don't know anything else about this watch, so if somebody has some infos I will be glad to hear them !

 

I can't do a summary of the history of Lip because the story is tooooo long. Idk if the brand Lip is known in other countries in the world, but in France Lip is a symbol. Lip is the french watch that your grand parents had, and gave to your parents etc...

 

Lip exist since 1867, and since that date there has been some issues with the worker, even taking them to block the factory and sell the watches themselves so that it doesnt close during the quartz crisis !

 

If you want to know more about that brand, I suggest you to go to :

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIP_(company)

 

 

A. Nogues, watchmaking student.

 

That is a real looker!

I'm working on a 7730 at the moment, but it has a bent fourth wheel arbor, that to replace would be silly money as far as I'm concerned

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Jon said:

That is a real looker!

I'm working on a 7730 at the moment, but it has a bent fourth wheel arbor, that to replace would be silly money as far as I'm concerned

There is a fourth wheel on eBay at the moment for C$40, is that a more realistic price?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@JohnD£22.85 is not a bad price, but add the shipping, then 20% VAT and then handling charge from Royal Mail and it ends up being £57.

That's what I mean by 'silly' money.

Thanks for the link though

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Jon said:

@JohnD£22.85 is not a bad price, but add the shipping, then 20% VAT and then handling charge from Royal Mail and it ends up being £57.

That's what I mean by 'silly' money.

Thanks for the link though

Keep looking there may well be one available more locally when the Covid 19 restrictions are relaxed in Europe. I have managed to source some rare vintage parts from Italy and Switzerland in the past. A couple of Italian suppliers I have used before, have shut down their internet shops since early March, but are due to start relisting after 11th May and despatching after 18th May when the postal system is due to be running 'normally' again.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, JohnD said:

Keep looking there may well be one available more locally when the Covid 19 restrictions are relaxed in Europe. I have managed to source some rare vintage parts from Italy and Switzerland in the past. A couple of Italian suppliers I have used before, have shut down their internet shops since early March, but are due to start relisting after 11th May and despatching after 18th May when the postal system is due to be running 'normally' again.....

I'll keep an eye out... Many thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Hi nickelsilver, thanks for the great explanation and the links! I'll take a good look in the article.  Especially this is great news to hear! Looking through forums and youtube videos I was informed to 'fist find a case and then fit a movement for it'. But seems that's not the case for pocket watches at least?  I guess I should be looking to find some 'male square bench keys' for now. I was thinking of winding the mainspring using a screwdriver directly, but I found a thread that you've replied on, saying that it could damage the spring. 
    • Murks, The rate and amplitude look OK, and the amplitude should improve once the oils you have used get a chance to move bed-in, also I notice that you are using default 52 degrees for the lift angle, if you get the real lift angle (assuming it's not actually 52) this will change your amplitude - maybe higher, maybe lower. I notice that the beat error is a little high, but not crazy high. At the risk of upsetting the purists, if the balance has an adjustment arm I would go ahead and try and get this <0.3 ms, but if it does not have an adjustable arm then I would probably leave well alone. Just my opinion.
    • Hi everyone on my timegrapher it showing this do a make anymore adjustment someone let me know ?    
    • Maybe I'm over simplifying this and I'm a little late to the discussion, but just by my looking at oil when I use it on a treated cap jewel  the oil stays in one nice bubble, but when I don't it spreads out to the edges of the jewel. I'm not sure (but could well be wrong) but the analogy of a waxed car and rain is accurate in this case, the wax is very hydrophobic and repels the water, however, the process epilame works by is a different physical process based upon cohesion/adhesion (oleophilic) not repulsion (oleophobic)  at least as far as I have read/observed. If one were to use a oleophobic substance equivalent to wax (hydrophobic) then one would need to create a donut shape to fence in the oil, however if one used such a strategy with a epilame which is oleophilic then the oil would sit on the ring of the donut and not in the 'donut hole', exactly where you don't want it. Even if the oil is smeared then the oleophilic epilame should pull it back to the center (see diagram below). Reference For interest the chemical in epilame is 2-(PERFLUOROHEXYL) ETHYL METHACRYLATE, CAS NO: 2144-53-8
    • Looks lint the teeth on the hour wheel aren't meshing with the teeth on the calendar intermediate wheel, maybe the hour wheel is sitting on top of this instead of meshing?        
×
×
  • Create New...