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Please help! I bought this mantle clock sight unseen, and as it turns out, there are a couple of missing/damaged parts I need to replace. I am at a dead end trying to identify the movement however. To the best of my ability, I believe this is a Canadian made clock. The label inside the door does not have any names, but it appears to be identical in content and appearance to other clocks I've seen that were from the Blackforest Clock Co, which assembled cases and installed German movements circa 1920-40 or so, and was based in Toronto. I have stripped the movement, and the only markings present are the number 12, and 10653. Neither of these has opened any doors on my search. Attached are some photos of the movement and of the case.

I'm grateful for any leads this may generate. 

JC

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Hi  I have attached three lists of serial numbers from three german manufactuers who used serial numbers They may lead to somthing. With no makers mark It will only be identiiable by the serial No . style, clock pillars , not an easy task I wish you luck.

Gustav Becker Serial Numbers.html Herschede Serial Numbers.html Lenzkirch Serial Numbers.html

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I forgot to mention that I read the Blackforest Clock Co was known to use Mauthe movements prior to WWII. I would expect to see a trademark stamp if this were the case. I haven't been able to find any Mauthe 8-day that resemble this assemblage though.


Watchweasol - thank you for those serial lists. From those we can eliminate Gustav Becker and Lenzkirch as possibilities. Herschede does have a match in 1922, so it warrants further investigation.

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It is a Mauthe, it's not very common it strikes a melody on the half hour and the hour on the hour, the melody can be switched off and it will give a single strike on the half hour instead.

Yours has a wheel missing that transfers drive to the melody see pictures:1692954263_Inkedmissingwheel_LI.thumb.jpg.b4e8fef487af170d94f1ae5cbade55d0.jpg1791330486_Inkedmissingwheel2_LI.thumb.jpg.b113d8150a4b64f7472c7ac7a6fd52c7.jpg

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It is a Mauthe, it's not very common it strikes a melody on the half hour and the hour on the hour, the melody can be switched off and it will give a single strike on the half hour instead.
Yours has a wheel missing that transfers drive to the melody see pictures:1692954263_Inkedmissingwheel_LI.thumb.jpg.b4e8fef487af170d94f1ae5cbade55d0.jpg1791330486_Inkedmissingwheel2_LI.thumb.jpg.b113d8150a4b64f7472c7ac7a6fd52c7.jpg

Good eye That missing wheel is the reason I’m trying to ID this.


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