Geo Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 When fitting new stems to watches I use these tools :- Digital calipers, Fine grade diamond lap Wire cutter Pin vice Now for fitting. (1) Hold the stem in the pin vice and screw on the crown tightly by hand. (2) With the movement fitted correctly in the case, insert the stem until it locks in place. Now measure the gap between the case and the underside of the stem. In this case it is 2.16mm. (3) Subtract 0.2mm from this size and this will give the amount to remove from the stem. In this case it will be 1.96mm which will give 0.2mm clearance below the crown when fitted to the watch. (4) Now remove the crown from the stem and hold the stem very tightly in the pin vice, then place the pin vice and stem between the jaws of the digital calipers then zero the calipers. (5) Remove the calipers and without touching the zero button set them to minus 1.96mm. THEN RE-ZERO THE CALIPERS AT THIS LENGTH The wire cutters are now used cut off the excess thread leaving a small amount to be filed to the exact length. (6) All that is required now is to dress the stem with the diamond lap a little at a time until the calipers read zero. (7) Finally screw the crown on tightly and it should be ready to fit to the watch without further adjustment. I find that this method cuts down on trial and error. FOR SCREW DOWN CROWNS. A) Screw down the crown tightly onto the case without the stem and measure the distance nbetween the bottom of the crown and the case. B ) Screw the new stem tightly into the crown, then insert into the watch until it engages and locks into the movement. C) Press the crown down firmly as far as it will go and hold it there. D) Using the vernier callipers, measure the distance between the bottom of the crown and the case. E) Subtract the size determined in (D) from the size measured in (A) then subtract a further 0.15mm from this size. This is the amount to shorten the stem by. This should allow the crown to screw full home without compressing the stem too tightly between the movement and the inside of the crown. F) Cut the stem leaving it slightly longer than the size determined in (E), and dress down to size using the diamond lap and vernier callipers as described in the original post. G) Screw the crown onto the shortened stem and check fit and function, before using a tiny spot of Loctite 221 to secure. Click here to view the article 17
Geo Posted November 1, 2014 Author Posted November 1, 2014 OOPS, I forgot to say the calipers had to be re-zeroed again! (5) Remove the calipers and without touching the zero button set them to minus 1.96mm. THEN RE-ZERO THE CALIPERS AT THIS LENGTH The wire cutters are now used cut off the excess thread leaving a small amount to be filed to the exact length. Please edit this into the original post if possible Mark. 1
dom Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 I always add a small amount of loctite at the same time. They never come off then.
jnash Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 I always add a small amount of loctite at the same time. They never come off then.Yep me too..
SeikoWatch Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Thank you Geo..For my part I purchased the same type of stem and I measure the same length and I cut and I file the end of the threads of the stem. for me, this solve the problem..I'm lucky because it has never happened to have a watch with a piece of the stem. It is also rare that I buy a watch with a broken stem..Sorry for my bad english ;) your explanations are the best..
Mark Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 OOPS, I forgot to say the calipers had to be re-zeroed again! (5) Remove the calipers and without touching the zero button set them to minus 1.96mm. THEN RE-ZERO THE CALIPERS AT THIS LENGTH The wire cutters are now used cut off the excess thread leaving a small amount to be filed to the exact length. Please edit this into the original post if possible Mark. Your wish is my command :)
Mark Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Great tutorial by the way. Promoted to article. 1
Andyclient Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Brilliant , looking forward to trying this , I have previously used a marker pen and trial and error , with the emphasis on error , which goes to pure guesswork for waterproof crowns !! Thanks very much for sharing
Geo Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 Thanks very much for sharing This is what the forum is all about! :) 1
mlfloyd1 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Does this method also applies to waterproof lock down crowns as well?
Geo Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) FOR SCREW DOWN CROWNS. (A) Screw down the crown tightly onto the case without the stem and measure the distance between the bottom of the crown and the case. (B ) Screw the new stem tightly into the crown, then insert into the watch until it engages and locks into the movement. (C ) Press the crown down firmly as far as it will go and hold it there. (D) Using the vernier callipers, measure the distance between the bottom of the crown and the case. (E) Subtract the size determined in (D) from the size measured in (A) then subtract a further 0.15mm from this size. This is the amount to shorten the stem by. This should allow the crown to screw full home without compressing the stem too tightly between the movement and the inside of the crown. (F) Cut the stem leaving it slightly longer than the size determined in (E), and dress down to size using the diamond lap and vernier callipers as described in the original post. (G) Screw the crown onto the shortened stem and check fit and function, before using a tiny spot of Loctite to secure. This is now added to original post by Geo. Edited November 9, 2015 by Geo 2
Sendilkumar Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 I am looking for exactly the same tips. Very useful. What exactly the difference of screw down and normal?
bobm12 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Hi Sendikumar, The screw down crown has a spring between the stem and the crown (it is part of the crown ensemble) that creates a certain tension when properly screwed into the case tube. The spring tension translates into a shorter stem -- since the spring supplies the rest of the length -- and in the end it "takes back" that length to seal the watch...this is normally used in diving watches. Did I confuse you more? I'm not very good at explaining! Cheers, Bob
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