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I just finished painting this and thought you guys would get a kick out of it.  Its a Hauser M1 watchmaker's jig borer.   

I normally worry about getting my machines in good mechanical shape and don't care about paint (if you're using them, the paint will look like crap after a year of chips and coolant in any event) but this little one was worth it.  Its primary used by watchmakers as a jig borer and mill.    Its direct reading off the dials in ten thousands of an inch with lead error correction (the marker for the dial moves and follows a profile to correct for any screw error).  Now it is a jig borer, but I'll say it is the nicest machine I've put my hands on, and that includes many of the worlds best names including other swiss stuff.  Exceptionally well made.

i bought yet another mill and lathe before Christmas and ended bringing this one home as well, they don't come up often and it just too cute.  Wear is negligible with the original scraping well defined everywhere.  The only flaw was the paint was literally falling in big chips - another good reason to paint it.  I chipped all the old paint off, it was so thick, feathering it was a real challenge, so just took it all off.

I have the spindle (8mm collet) and drill gimbal but I'm going to have to make the microscope.  Used for locating, the microscope is an important accessory as they are also used as an very toolmakers microscope.

I have the original stand, but no room for it at the moment.  They powered these things from a motor hanging from post, much like a foredom.  The ideas was to isolate the machine from vibration....not sure yet how I'll go about it but I've some ideas

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I just finished painting this and thought you guys would get a kick out of it.  Its a Hauser M1 watchmaker's jig borer.   
I normally worry about getting my machines in good mechanical shape and don't care about paint (if you're using them, the paint will look like crap after a year of chips and coolant in any event) but this little one was worth it.  Its primary used by watchmakers as a jig borer and mill.    Its direct reading off the dials in ten thousands of an inch with lead error correction (the marker for the dial moves and follows a profile to correct for any screw error).  Now it is a jig borer, but I'll say it is the nicest machine I've put my hands on, and that includes many of the worlds best names including other swiss stuff.  Exceptionally well made.
i bought yet another mill and lathe before Christmas and ended bringing this one home as well, they don't come up often and it just too cute.  Wear is negligible with the original scraping well defined everywhere.  The only flaw was the paint was literally falling in big chips - another good reason to paint it.  I chipped all the old paint off, it was so thick, feathering it was a real challenge, so just took it all off.
I have the spindle (8mm collet) and drill gimbal but I'm going to have to make the microscope.  Used for locating, the microscope is an important accessory as they are also used as an very toolmakers microscope.
I have the original stand, but no room for it at the moment.  They powered these things from a motor hanging from post, much like a foredom.  The ideas was to isolate the machine from vibration....not sure yet how I'll go about it but I've some ideas
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That’s nice I bet it’s heavy well done


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Thanks....yes it is heavy.  Disassembly required!  There a bit of pain to move as you have lift from the bottom or you bend the screws, which are  the heart of it.  each layer just sits on top of the other only attached  by the screws

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looking cool is its main function  :).  A jig borer is primarily used to make holes - very, very accurately placed holes.  It can also be used for light milling, which anything in watchmaking pretty much is.   This particular  machine is highly favoured by watchmakers because of its small size and accuracy.

Of all the machines I've got, it'll probably be the least used, but I like the tools and its been on the wish for a long time.  The law of diminishing returns has definitely pushed this toolaholic way out on the skinny side of derived utility, but I'm still having fun :)

 

 

 

 

 

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Well, if its main function is looking cool, its fulfilling its main function with flying colors :biggrin:

Bet you could make a dial on that thing - if you have a ton of patience.

Nice machine!

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