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Hello all. I'm learning the basics on an at1867 manual movement and the incabloc lyre spring on the bottom side of the balance wheel broke as I was removing it. I would honestly say this must be a material fault or brittleness due to age hardening as only the slightest deflection was applied when the leg on the lyre spring failed.

 

Just do curiosity I have pressed out the block (having first removed the jewels) and replaced for practice.

 

My question is, can I still procure the incabloc and lyre spring for the st1868 movement, or do I need to be thinking about looking on eBay for a scrapper of the same ilk? Bearing in mind I paid £4 for the watch for purpose of practicing on, I'm not looking to pay silly money for for a nos part. I'd be happy to buy one from anyone here who is prepared to sell one to me.

 

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Kind regards, deggsy

 

 

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The incabloc springs come in different sizes . You can buy them at cousinsuk.  Just has to figure out which one you need. 

But can't find anything about ST1867 ? Are you sure that you have the right number for your movement? 

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A bit confused what this movement is. I have a incabloc catalogue but no ST1686 or 1786.

However in this range,  the lower spring is 170.03 & upper spring 173.03

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A bit confused what this movement is. I have a incabloc catalogue but no ST1686 or 1786.
However in this range,  the lower spring is 170.03 & upper spring 173.03

Hi. Sorry it's st 1686.


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A bit confused what this movement is. I have a incabloc catalogue but no ST1686 or 1786.
However in this range,  the lower spring is 170.03 & upper spring 173.03

Thanks clockboy. Where did you find this information please? If I ask you now, it may be helpful in the future. Regards deggsy


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I own a incabloc catalogue . However the catalogue is available on the Cousins web site. You can cross reference by measuring the cap jewel to get the correct spring. Cousins sell them in packs of 5 or you can purchase a selection box for approx. £50

 

 

 

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Thanks clockboy. I just visited the incabloc web site which is very informative. I can see why you were confused, as as am I, AS1686 isn't listed under the AS movement manufacturer. Is As1686 shown in your catalogue you own?


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