Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Hi Everyone, To cut a long story short I broke the regulator arm on my pocket watch from approx 1895. The regulator arm was loose and I tried to tighten it by squeezing. I shouldn't have been so stupid. I know that now. Any ideas how I can source one that will fit? I have attached a picture of the exact same style to the one I need. Inner diameter of the regulator arm where it fits around the jewel setting is approx. 4.3 mm. Hairspring is overcoil type. Thanks for any help in advance.

Screenshot_20241030-224619-494.png

IMG_20241025_082554488.jpg

IMG_20241030_223548319.jpg

Edited by steve1811uk
Posted (edited)

unfortunately in watch repair it's the painful lessons we remember.

finding spare parts for vintage watches is always going to be a challenge. Then a unidentified watch makes things even more challenging. If you cannot find one you could always regulated and use a small amount of glue to hold it in place. Not ideal but you may not be of a find one right away

I don't suppose we can have a picture of the dial side without the dial just because I'm curious about something.

 

 

Edited by JohnR725
  • Thanks 1
Posted
6 minutes ago, praezis said:

I wonder if the broken parts was original at all. Looks a bit strange.

I am sure it is correct as I see that style used on quite a few English watches of that period (eBay listings mainly)

3 hours ago, JohnR725 said:

unfortunately in watch repair it's the painful lessons we remember.

finding spare parts for vintage watches is always going to be a challenge. Then a unidentified watch makes things even more challenging. If you cannot find one you could always regulated and use a small amount of glue to hold it in place. Not ideal but you may not be of a find one right away

I don't suppose we can have a picture of the dial side without the dial just because I'm curious about something.

 

 

Hi John,

 

I will send a picture when I rebuild that side. Is that OK? Or is a picture of the empty plate what you need?

 

Steve

Posted
2 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Make one out of carbon steel. 

I did have that very thought but drilling the tiny holes (approx 0.1 mm dia) for the two curb pins has put me off the idea as I don't have a pillar drill. Might give that a go though at some point if one doesn't turn up.

Posted
6 hours ago, steve1811uk said:

Is that OK? Or is a picture of the empty plate what you need

what I was curious about was if you look at the dial side plate can you see the scribe marks were somebody hand laid out the wheels? It would give us an indication as to whether this was mass-produced or whether it was basically hand assembled.

  • Like 1
Posted
59 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

what I was curious about was if you look at the dial side plate can you see the scribe marks were somebody hand laid out the wheels? It would give us an indication as to whether this was mass-produced or whether it was basically hand assembled.

Another issue has been found unfortunately. Appears that the balance staff is too short with the roller table sitting on the pallet fork and the balance rim sitting on the pallet fork cock. I don't think the watch has run in that state. Time to give it back I think. 

IMG_20241031_181056390.jpg

Posted
2 hours ago, steve1811uk said:

Another issue has been found unfortunately. Appears that the balance staff is too short with the roller table sitting on the pallet fork and the balance rim sitting on the pallet fork cock. I don't think the watch has run in that state. Time to give it back I think. 

IMG_20241031_181056390.jpg

Interested if anyone knows what T.H on the rear plate signifies. Could it be a makers mark as I can see no other marks on the watch.

 

2 hours ago, steve1811uk said:

Another issue has been found unfortunately. Appears that the balance staff is too short with the roller table sitting on the pallet fork and the balance rim sitting on the pallet fork cock. I don't think the watch has run in that state. Time to give it back I think. 

IMG_20241031_181056390.jpg

Does anyone know the significance of the T.H mark on the rear plate?

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I believe @nickelsilver has a setup like that.
    • I posted pictures earlier in this thread. My lathe and mill are two separate instruments. I think I have seen examples of putting a milling head on a lathe bed...but not certain.
    • Timex Camper, September 1994, new to me. Strap is an old perlon with "Germany" in script etched into the resin on the tail end. Not Horlon or Eulit I believe. History unknown, running strong, losing less than a minute a day. Goals for this: Wear it a ton! Buy crystal lift, clean out the gunk around the ring and under the crystal Eventually swap into a stainless steel case. I've seen a member who has swapped a Timex mechanical movement into the Timex J.Crew quartz field watch case.
    • One of the problems we would have with a watchmaker's lathe is they were made over considerable span of time and manufacturing in the early days probably wasn't as good as it was today. Then if you look at the older catalogs typically it was just the head a few collets and something to rest graver on. So basically a basic lathe with over time things acquired but acquired things may or may not fit. Order today you purchase a used lathe that all kinds of nifty bits and pieces from a seller that acquired from? This would come back to that the basic watchmaker's lathe was used for basic watchmaking like turning things with a hand graver. Then limited indexing is fine because you can make things like stems Which don't need a whole bunch indexing   In the link above the word vector is mentioned and at the link below you can purchase one. Then of course you're going to need the motor that's a little bit extra for the price. https://www.hswalsh.com/product/lathe-vector-watchmakers-48-collets-hl11. That you're going to need some bonus parts like these found this picture online show the classic way of classic gear cutting.   The lathe could have a much bigger indexing disk but it has to be mounted close to the edge. Otherwise you're going to have a whole bunch of smaller disks like this which I think has notches rather than holes. Then as wonderful as these pictures look actually cutting a gear with this is not entirely fun. Look at all is belts all pulling on things and this is a watchmaker's lathe lightweight with lots of bits and pieces attached. It would make more sense if you actually cut a gear with something like this and it tends to be it's not really the best way to do it looks nice on paper but it is not the best way to go. Reality for cutting watch parts would be a bigger machine is much better. Than getting rid of all those belts and pulleys also good. Here is an interesting channel I would've liked of found a different video but this was nice and short if you look at his video as he uses a stepping motor and worm gear assembly for the indexing plate. In this particular video it gets attached to the lathe at about one minute and seven seconds and it looks like it's hiding looks like he has a Sherline. I do know he's had other stuff you'll just have to go through his videos to find it. Then at about one minute and 22 seconds you find out if you set up things appropriately. It's always bad we end up with half a tooth at the very end. Then you will note big lathe yes he's getting a big gear but you could easily cut a watch gear with the setup. And it definitely way more stable than a watchmaker's lathe.         Oh here's a company they been in business since 1911 http://www.fwderbyshireinc.com/  
    • Hello and welcome from Leeds, England. 
×
×
  • Create New...