Runs, but time and date can’t be set.

[apandersP]

Hello. I’m glad to be here on this forum. It seems nice and very helpful.

Ive always loved watches, but now I wanna go further in, and maybe start to do some light restorations and try to fix something that don’t work. Just for my own pleasure.

 

I’ve started with this Oriosa that I’ve got from eBay. The sellers says that the movement runs, but the time and date can’t be set. He suspect something with the crown (obviously). Can any of you guys maybe get me closer to what’s wrong? 

[AndyGSi]

Welcome to the forum.

Would need to see photos of the movement but it could well be a stem problem.

[apandersP]

3 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Welcome to the forum.

Would need to see photos of the movement but it could well be a stem problem.

I will open the case, when it arrives. It’s beat up, but it was cheap so could be fun to clean it, polish the crystal and make it run. 

[mikepilk]

My number 1 rule when buying a watch, is, don't buy unless you can see a pic of the movement - unless it's really cheap and you're not worried what's in it.

Edited July 31, 2024 by mikepilk

[apandersP]

4 minutes ago, mikepilk said:

My number 1 rule when buying a watch, is, don't buy unless you can see a pic of the movement - unless it's really cheap and you're not worried what's in it.

It was really cheap, do I don’t care that much if it complete dead. I know the risk is there. At least I can practice polishing a beat up crystal. 

[rehajm]

It’s a nice looking watch. Once it arrives you will receive some help when everyone has a look at the movement. Dial side, too…

Edited July 31, 2024 by rehajm

[Nucejoe]

 Its likely a pin pallet, in which case you are straight welcomed to 404 club here. 

The date change complication includes several parts to make it jump.  Hands and dial plate must be removed to get to date mech.

 

[apandersP]

25 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

 Its likely a pin pallet, in which case you are straight welcomed to 404 club here. 

The date change complication includes several parts to make it jump.  Hands and dial plate must be removed to get to date mech.

 

Sounds like I need to get my hand on some tools… can you recommend tools that don’t ruin my budget? 

[Nucejoe]

1 hour ago, apandersP said:

Sounds like I need to get my hand on some tools… can you recommend tools that don’t ruin my budget? 

https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Watchmaker-Screwdriver-Eyeglasses-Electronics/dp/B09Z1XMY74

[watchweasol]

Welcome to the forum,  as far as tools go, it depends on how far you want to get into watch repair. Have a look at Cousins UK web site. They are a watch materials company and supply both the professional and the amateur a like so you can select what you want . I would suggest for starter# tweezers, decent screwdrivers , eyeglass (loupe) caseback knife, can be made from a decent knife. These can all be bought singly at affordable prices. Should you wish to expand your hobby then invest in the best you can afford. I have added a file to help you get acquainted with the internals of the watch.

when you receive the watch and open it up.a picture of the movement and or the calibre number would be helpful.

TZIllustratedGlossary.pdf

[rjenkinsgb]

I have this screwdriver set - Bergeon, at a sensible price:

https://gleave.london/bergeon-30081-p05-set-of-5-screwdrivers-flathead/

I can't remember where I go mine from, it's some time ago; the place above seems to have one of the best prices. I've since added 0.6mm and 0.5mm from the same series. They are good!

 

I bought some fairly expensive steel tweezers to start with, but did not get on with them. I got this brass set from ebay and only ever used one pair, they are nice:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324318771906

(I've had quite a few other bits from that same ebay supplier).

 

 

I'd also recommend you get a "mobile phone repair tool kit" with contents similar to this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332217642979

The long pointed plastic tools are invaluable for such as holding parts down while locating them or fitting screws & the flat metal are good for such a scraping things or mixing / applying epoxy.

Plus some basic tweezers for heavier items, like lifting plates out of cleaning jars.

(I also have some old artery forceps which are great for grabbing and manipulating things).

 

Edited July 31, 2024 by rjenkinsgb
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[apandersP]

It still not arrived.. maybe it won’t arrive at all.. but I’ve got another really nice watch. I’ve polished the crystal, and changed the strap. Please see attached photos. I just realized that it’s running to fast.. it’s so fast, that I can tell it’s running too fast, after just two hours of wearing. What should look for? I just set it to the time on my iPhone, and I will check tomorrow how much of a difference it really is. 

[apandersP]

Hey again. I finally got the watch, and I opened up the case and took out the movement. The stem is snapped, that’s why it can’t be set. I was lucky that the rest came out no problem. Now I need to find out how to source a new one. 

Movement not super clean, but looks alright tbh. The case is dirty like I never seen before lol.

Definitely needs a new crystal, so I took that out so I can measure and order a new one. 

The movement runs with a bit of shaking, so that’s a good sign. I’ve attached some photos of it all. 

How do I find out what movement this is? So I can source a new stem? 

 

[apandersP]

Found out that the movement is a France Ebauches 4611A

[AndyGSi]

What's the number and logo under the balance?

[apandersP]

10 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

What's the number and logo under the balance?

Found out that the movement is a France Ebauches 4611A