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1 hour ago, Knebo said:

Any thoughts? See at 7:22 onwards and especially at 7:43

Not impressed. The Kluber P125 (or whatever it was) should be thinly spread around the barrel rim but not in the notches. When using oil (HP-1300) I prefer to lubricate the barrel bearings when the arbor and spring have been mounted and the lid has been closed. I am unsure what calibre this is but I would choose Moebius 9504 (instead of Molykote) for the barrel bearings which I believe is fairly close to Rolex's MR4 grease. Did I just start a fire!? 😱

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2 hours ago, VWatchie said:

Not impressed. The Kluber P125 (or whatever it was) should be thinly spread around the barrel rim but not in the notches. When using oil (HP-1300) I prefer to lubricate the barrel bearings when the arbor and spring have been mounted and the lid has been closed. I am unsure what calibre this is but I would choose Moebius 9504 (instead of Molykote) for the barrel bearings which I believe is fairly close to Rolex's MR4 grease. Did I just start a fire!? 😱

Poor Kalle is getting ragged about, i did watch one of his videos yesterday,  first time for ages. I had to end it though he had rebank and overbank completely mixed up . I read the comments and only a couple of people had picked up on it, proves that beginners are picking up incorrect terms, not good.

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24 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

he had rebank and overbank completely mixed up

I believe he always calls rebanking/knocking/galloping "overbanking". I have heard it several times.

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7 hours ago, mbwatch said:

I believe he always calls rebanking/knocking/galloping "overbanking". I have heard it several times.

He didn't mention rebanking at all just knocking as overbanking , which are two different terms 

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15 minutes ago, Klassiker said:

Don't forget, English is not his first language. I'm sure if you tip him off, he'll be really grateful. You might even get a mention in his next video!

Haha I've been mentioned in a few of his videos, i figured the language barrier could  be the reason, it was pointed out to him a couple of times in the comments,  be good to hear kalle correct this mistake, i have a lot of respect for folk that hold thier hands up to say sorry i got something wrong.

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17 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

i have a lot of respect for folk that hold thier hands up to say sorry i got something wrong

That could be just the motivation he needs! 🙂

Posted
9 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Poor Kalle is getting ragged about, i did watch one of his videos yesterday,  first time for ages. I had to end it though he had rebank and overbank completely mixed up .

I like Kalle, who wouldn't, but using his homemade terminology, like "main barrel" takes a lot of focus away. I always wanted to ask him where I could find the secondary barrels😉

9 hours ago, mbwatch said:

I believe he always calls rebanking/knocking/galloping "overbanking".

"knocking" isn't bad as a synonym for re-banking! The impulse pin "knocks on the door" (the outside of the fork horn).

2 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

He didn't mention rebanking at all just knocking as overbanking , which are two different terms

Yes, there is a distinct and important difference so I couldn't agree more.

2 hours ago, Klassiker said:

Don't forget, English is not his first language.

That would affect word order, grammar and such which is totally understandable but not terminology.

 

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1 hour ago, VWatchie said:

I like Kalle, who wouldn't, but using his homemade terminology, like "main barrel" takes a lot of focus away. I always wanted to ask him where I could find the secondary barrels😉

Haha, I'm probably sticking up for him now , i think he's shortened mainspring barrel to just main barrel lol, why not just barrel ? I guess alarm watches have alarm barrels ?

But again as pointed out by Klassiker,  english is not kalle's first language so allowances have to be made, but yes i like him too 🙂

Yey day at home today in my watchroom, radiator fitted in there last week so nice and cosy now. After spending all day yesterday climbing around like a monkey on scaffolding, this is heaven , the smell of coffee percolating in the corner and fresh homemade walnut and fruit loaf and its raining outside, i ask what could be better ? 🙂

No its not coffee , its camomile tea I've had my one morning coffee, i just love the smell of coffee brewing. Not trying to make anyone jealous or anything......🤔......well maybe...... just a little.....😅

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1 hour ago, VWatchie said:
3 hours ago, Klassiker said:

Don't forget, English is not his first language.

That would affect word order, grammar and such which is totally understandable but not terminology.

https://youtu.be/vQBGA_oJlhI?si=GSMsYe88Ruzdn-1k

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Thanks for the link! Interesting!

"with an automatic winding system, it can be that there is too much graphite grease in the main barrel and that causes the spring to give extra friction to the main barrel so therefore too much pressure on the gear train" ~ Kalle Slaap

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1 hour ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

But again as pointed out by Klassiker,  english is not kalle's first language so allowances have to be made

It could be that the word "over banking" in Dutch is used to describe "re-banking" and vice versa, but I doubt it. I have no problem with faulty word order, grammar and ignorance (we're all new at this at some point), but I'm relentless regarding terminology (mind you, synonyms are perfectly fine).

I suggest that we contact the police so that a trial can be held against Kalle and hopefully the court will find him guilty of this unpardonable offence and sentence him to the severest penalty under the law.

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1 hour ago, VWatchie said:

 I'm relentless regarding terminology (mind you, synonyms are perfectly fine).

I'm the same without a standard language for watchmaking it can get confusing, in particular for beginners, 2 or 3 people advising using or 2 or 3 different names for the same part. I admit to liking the older English names and terms going back to traditional watchmaking ie. The lever ( its function ) as opposed to the pallet fork, its less spelling for starters 😄 and use pallets or even anchor ( depending on the particular part of it in question )to describe one end of the lever and fork for the other end. Sometimes its function related and other times a lookalike description .

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4 hours ago, VWatchie said:

"knocking" isn't bad as a synonym for re-banking! The impulse pin "knocks on the door" (the outside of the fork horn).

Old books usually call it "knocking" or "galloping" due to the telltale sound it makes on a large pocket watch.

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3 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

2 or 3 people advising using or 2 or 3 different names for the same part.

I still have difficulty when there’s an 🇬🇧english and an 🇺🇸english for the same part or an archaic term for same…

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6 hours ago, VWatchie said:

I like Kalle, who wouldn't, but using his homemade terminology, like "main barrel" takes a lot of focus away.

I see no problem using the term "main barrel". I use the term myself 😟

I think you are being pendantic 🤣

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1 hour ago, rehajm said:

I still have difficulty when there’s an 🇬🇧english and an 🇺🇸english for the same part or an archaic term for same…

That raises a question for me - why don't all you UK folks spell it "barrel arbour" like you do with your "colours"? (apologies for my humo[u]r)

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21 minutes ago, mbwatch said:

That raises a question for me - why don't all you UK folks spell it "barrel arbour" like you do with your "colours"? (apologies for my humo[u]r)

🤔hmm......let me just cheque the reason that .

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34 minutes ago, mbwatch said:

That raises a question for me - why don't all you UK folks spell it "barrel arbour" like you do with your "colours"? (apologies for my humo[u]r)

I often do, by mistake. Words with "ou" (colour, flavour, honour etc) are from the old French when it was the main language in England. 

The differences are usually blamed on Mr Noah Webster.  " the American lexicographer. Seeking to establish American independence and identity in language, Webster implemented a number of spelling reforms in A Compendious Dictionary of the English Language, which he published in 1806".

I find it interesting the way words and pronunciation change, The one that amazes me is the spelling of Knight.  I believe the scene in Holy Grail with the French knights in the castle has the pronunciation about right  : "you silly English "cuh-nikt" "

 

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Posted

I've been watching quite a lot of videos by this Marshall guy lately. Really awesome video and audio quality. It's also nice that he actually shows the mistakes he makes. That escape wheel pivot especially ouch. He also lubricates the escape wheel cap jewel and just drops it in, which is nice. I have tried and failed. What I don't get is that he's got a ton of  equipment and he works on really expensive watches but he doesn't use epilame. And I can't see a reason not to remove cap jewels before the cleaning cycles. All that filming and editing is really time consuming so I hope he gets compensated reasonably well. 

Posted
10 hours ago, rehajm said:

It's a watch not a Nazi ⌚...but if you mean Jaeger using dial screws on the face side that is controversial…

No, I meant the restoration. Many people think the case and dial should of been left as is. 

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19 hours ago, Malocchio said:

I've been watching quite a lot of videos by this Marshall guy lately. Really awesome video and audio quality. It's also nice that he actually shows the mistakes he makes. That escape wheel pivot especially ouch. He also lubricates the escape wheel cap jewel and just drops it in, which is nice. I have tried and failed. What I don't get is that he's got a ton of  equipment and he works on really expensive watches but he doesn't use epilame. And I can't see a reason not to remove cap jewels before the cleaning cycles. All that filming and editing is really time consuming so I hope he gets compensated reasonably well. 

Marshall who? What is the site?


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