Washing machine watch

[LeCorbusier]

I have been given a watch by a family member which accidentally got left in a dressing gown pocket and was put through the washing machine.

It is an old watch (ladies) - possibly 1920s or earlier - in a rose gold Dennison case. The movement is swiss with an enamel dial. The only info on the movement is an inscription saying Terminus on the wheel train bridge and an inscription saying swiss made on the barrel bridge.

The centre wheel and has lost its pivot which has broken off in the cannon pinion. The second wheel has a broken pivot. The balance has lost the jewel but the balance wheel looks ok.

Is there any chance of finding replacements for these ... or am I realistically looking at finding a replacement movement for the case?

[clockboy]

You need to identify the movement calibur then search for a donor movement on a auction site such as eBay.

[jdm]

1 hour ago, LeCorbusier said:

It is an old watch (ladies) - possibly 1920s or earlier - in a rose gold Dennison case.

For as nice the watch could be you need to post a clear picture of the mov.t alone, both sides, plus it's basic sizes, to help others help you identify it.

[LeCorbusier]

The watch movement is 22mm diameter & ±3.5mm thick.

Pictures as below.

[nickelsilver]

Looks like an Aurore Villeret 233. Look under the balance wheel, there might (ought to) be a shield symbol with AV in it, and perhaps the caliber. Doesn't seem very common, Ranfft doesn't list it.

Edited April 4, 2022 by nickelsilver

[LeCorbusier]

I can't find an AV mark..... Also measuring the main plate with callipers it measures 22mm not 22.5mm.

Edited April 4, 2022 by LeCorbusier

[LeCorbusier]

"The movement is signed with the name Terminus, a brand name registered by Georges Favre-Jacot of Zenith in 1894."

I found this quote for a Terminus branded watch on Selling Antiques? Is there a link with AV?

[nickelsilver]

They didn't always mark them with the actual maker's mark. The image from the book says 20-22.25mm, your movement as listed is 9 3/4 ligne, which is 21.99mm. Names on the bridges or dial will almost never be connected to the actual movement maker.

[LeCorbusier]

 

 

2 minutes ago, nickelsilver said:

They didn't always mark them with the actual maker's mark. The image from the book says 20-22.25mm, your movement as listed is 9 3/4 ligne, which is 21.99mm. Names on the bridges or dial will almost never be connected to the actual movement maker.

Thanks for the clarification ... that makes absolute sense.

[LeCorbusier]

The screw which attaches the ratchet wheel to the barrel arbor has a stripped thread. The thread in the arbor is also damaged I think. Can you re tap an arbor or is the steel too hard?